Building Qi in Lower Dantian

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David Lodge
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In Bruce Frantzis' book Taoist Sexual Meditation on page 364 he mentions that a student of Bai Hua was taught 'the basic hsing-i neigong practice of sinking the qi to the lower tantien'. And apparently after regular practice the student became very powerful.

Does anyone know if this practice is the same as the outer dissolving from Energy Gates but stopping at the lower dantian?

Trevor Barry
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Hi David, sinking and

Hi David,

sinking and dissolving are two separate practices.

Trevor

David Lodge
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Thanks, when I mean

Thanks, when I mean dissolving, I mean starting from the head and going sung and sinking the qi through the head, neck, torso etc.

Is this a different practice to 'sinking qi'?

Cheers

Trevor Barry
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Hi David, In outer dissolving

Hi David,

In outer dissolving you are trying to loosen blocked areas and then move that qi out beyond the edge of your field. Once it has loosened up it could go up, down or sideways to leave.

Bruce has written a good discription here - http://www.taichimaster.com/2015/10/05/outer-and-inner-dissolving/

Outer dissolving is often taught as starting from the top of the head and working your way down to the feet bringing along any unresolved qi as you go.

Sinking is a bit different - Bruce has written a description here - http://www.taichimaster.com/2010/03/23/how-do-you-sink-your-chi/

Essentially, you can do sinking without dissolving anything.

As a simple demo of sinking you can hold you arm out and ask a partner to lift it up. Now repeat the exercise as you sink you qi. Your partner should notice that you arm feels heavier and they may not be able to move it.

Sinking is very useful in martial arts as it give a heaviness to your blows that is very useful :-)

Taokua B
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Just to add to Trevor's

Just to add to Trevor's already wonderful, and generously given, description.. not only is the water-dissolving method not the same as sinking, and sinking can be done differently than the EnergyGates method referenced...
...also the HsingI sinking qi to accum and store is distinct still

(it is a specific practice- not just to 'deposit in the savings acct' as in Egates.. but rather to bld nei-jing.. a density which is used.) Howto, what is it- not covered in that book, and great chigung set, and I don't recall Bruce emphasizing the technique in HsingI, rather he mentions more indirectly development that comes about ( on a different note, ref the chi-packing mentioned, at the end of the EGates bk, "cautionary notes" section).. thus different methods, and details matter. -just my view

David Lodge
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Thanks, so the Hsing-I method

Thanks, so the Hsing-I method of storing the sunken Qi in the dantian is different to Energy Gates. A more detailed description of storing Qi in the dantian is given in Dragon and Tiger which you must be referring to.

I'm not sure what you mean when you said "but rather to bld nejing... a desnisity which is used"... could elaborate on that at all?

Cheers!

David Lodge
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Thanks, I've since found that

Thanks, I've since found that feeling the Qi becoming denser and heavier as it descends to the feet and having condense at the end instead of dissipating into the earth helps in creating the condensed / Jing like feeling.

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