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October 12, 2012 at 5:39 pm #128603
AnonymousGuestHi,
I was looking over my notes from last H&E Training and realized they were a bit fuzzy on what cavities can be activated and used. I was wondering if anyone has an complete list of the cavities used in Bruce’s system.
Thanks in Advance
Aaron
October 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm #132658
AnonymousGuestHey Aaron,
Good question. I’ll throw out the easy ones to get us started and see what others have to say. The armpits and the midriff are the easiest places to begin.
What else did you have on your list?
D
October 15, 2012 at 5:33 pm #132659
AnonymousGuesthi aaron
I don’t take notes, but instead try and remember with my body, so here’s what I remember.
short answer; all of them
longer answer.
first, your going for the joints of the hand, then arm (started with wrist, then elbow and shoulder socket)
then working the legs (ankle, knee and hip socket)also do hands and feet, but bruce recommended getting them going from wrist and ankle, (faster and easier than doing fingers and toes individually)
next, work on the shoulder blade and shoulders nest, including the sternoclavicular notch. that also helps get into the organs.
next, work on the cavity of the kua, which includes the hip socket, but is not just the hip socket, it’s bigger.
getting the kua pulsing will get you into the spine.theres a cavity in the midriff, on L and R channels, around the height of the lower ribs, and this also pulses, connecting the pulsing into the L and R channels.
there seems to be a lot of spillover, where you start pulsing one joint, and others start going along. I find it much harder to just pulse one joint, easier to focus on a joint, but kinda let everything get going. particularly when working on the kua or shoulder’s nest, it’s really one big system.
he also mentioned other stuff…
pulsing the joints of the spine
pulsing the cavities in the spine (brain and spinal cord)
pulsing the glands and sense organs
pulsing the rib joints
pulsing the plates of skull
pulsing the organs
pulsing the etheric field
pulsing the lower tan tien.
geting the etheric field and the lower tan tien connected and having the pulse initiate from lower tan tien.ultimately, the entire body, including all 16 nei gung elements, and eventually all the bodies, get connected and pulse together.
hope this helps, and if anyone remembers differently, id like to hear it. I find I remember a lot more than if I take notes, but there was a lot of material, I may have missed something.
rock on
richardOctober 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm #132660
AnonymousGuestHi Aaron:
Since Dan wants to play poker, I will see his bet and raise!!
The cavities taught in Heaven & Earth (and elsewhere) are the back of the knees (2), the kwa (2), the midriff (2) the solar plexus, the armpits (2), and the throat notch. Once and only after all those cavities are pulsing (opening & closing) evenly and smoothly, you also treat the lower tantien as a cavity, in addition to being an energetic center.
–Eric Peters
October 23, 2012 at 10:09 am #132661
AnonymousGuestI remember Eric’s list with the exception of the back of the knees; however, I’d always defer to Eric’s memory over mine.
So, now you have a list, What makes these cavities and what do you do with them? If all you do is pulse them like everything else that Rich mentioned, why make the distinction?
October 23, 2012 at 4:16 pm #132662
AnonymousGuestInteresting question!
In my experience, the pulsing of the cavities has a distinct quality, at least compared to the joints. It feels to me like they have a deeper reservoir for absorbing than the joints do. As if the joints can feed into the cavities.
Something similar happens on the expansion, as if the energy is transmitted through (and amplified by) the joints, but again, the cavities provider a deeper well to draw from (I’m not saying they are necessarily the source of the expanding energy).
My 2 cents…..and Aaron just had a baby, so you can expect him to weigh in a few years on this one.
October 24, 2012 at 8:59 am #132663
AnonymousGuestI think of them as diaphragmatic pumps.
October 25, 2012 at 12:55 pm #132664
AnonymousGuestCool. Just started playing with that idea yesterday and it made the cavities more distinct, compared the general gushy spaces I had been experiencing before. The back of the knee can definitely take on this same feel, of hollowing out as it closes…that’s what you mean by “diaphragmatic”, right?
October 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm #132665
AnonymousGuestI think we are talking about the same thing. There are three distinctly different ways I use the cavities as pumps. The throat notch is a lot like the diaphragm. The kwa can be done this way as well or more like a piston pump. When you drive pressure down the bone marrow of the leg toward the bubbling well in the foot, I shape it more like a piston. If I’m trying to pull up through the kwa toward the tan tien, it is more like the diaphragm. The solar plexus is on a different plane; more front to back. When it moves forward it creates a vacuum that should move blood back toward the heart. When they are used in “C” reverse breathing it is more like a peristaltic pump. I can explain this better if we get together some time. It is very concrete and creates pressure inside the body that is used for power instead of muscular strength.
October 29, 2012 at 7:59 pm #132666
AnonymousGuestThanks for the detailed answer!
I will play with it and would love to catch the live version at some point.
Maybe join Uncle Eric for Bend the Bow?
November 13, 2012 at 3:11 am #132667
AnonymousGuestJim has some interesting observations on the possible functions or uses of the cavities. I will play around with that.
However, as far as the practice of Heaven and Earth goes, the opening and closing of the cavities has always been explained and practiced as a spherical opening and closing, going out and coming in in all directions. This is the same as the opening and closing of the energy gate within each joint.
November 17, 2012 at 12:35 pm #132668
AnonymousGuestAgreed.
However, I didn’t make this stuff up. The best example of Bruce demonstrating the peristaltic pump of the “C” reverse breathing is on the Hsing-i DVDs. I don’t remember exactly where, but Bruce makes this movement incredibly clear and it isn’t spherical.
What I believe is going on below the skin is that the soft tissue is being compressed toward the spine and then pushed along the length of it to facilitate blood and fluid movement. There are major vein and arteries there. These have natural back pressure valves that ensure the blood will move only in the correct direction. So it doesn’t matter whether you are moving up or down. Up will help return blood to the heart down will help push blood down and away from the heart. Basically you are improving your circulation without taxing the heart.
Hopefully this makes at least one of my comments a little clearer and little more concrete. Whether or not you believe this is correct is another matter.
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