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    Was just reading this and thought it would be good to pass it on.

    http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~loly/oracle.pdf

    It’s an interesting way to structure the trigrams and hexagrams which actually closely follows what I learnt years ago at university in digital logic.

    If you look at the last picture you can see the 64 hexagrams structured in a particular way. Each up and down position is a change of only 1 line. Each diagonal position is a change of 2 lines of relative positions. All edge positions wrap back to the other side.

    It’s really quite elegant and reminds me of an tai chi analogy of having no top or bottom and flowing constantly, like the ocean moving in and out with no clear boundaries.

    #133385

    Anonymous
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    I just took a glance at the article. I’m going to enjoy looking at this in more detail. I’m sure it will spark some new ideas. Thanks.

    #133386

    Anonymous
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    Hi, if you are comparing the hexagrams to digital logic, bear this in mind: I heard Master Frantzis specifically state during a lecture that there are some Taoists who believe that bagua did not originate from this earth.

    #133387

    Anonymous
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    Did he elaborate on what that meant? There are quite a number of ways you could interpret that statement.

    #133388

    Anonymous
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    That was pretty much it, as I remember – or was it ‘not from this world’ or something like that. You would have to ask further from him. would be quite interested myself…

    #133389

    Anonymous
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    Interesting.
    I particularly like Peter Loly’s cubic version of the 8 trigrams in figure 4.c.
    And I’m fascinated by the way a cube shifts its orientation (in your mind) as you stare at it (magic eye).

    But in the end, I always ask, “So What?”

    Stuart Alve Olson has a book, “Tai Chi According to the I Ching,” (2001) where he associates the 8 trigrams with the 8 energies/postures (e.g. Heaven/3 solid lines is peng/warding-off). And he offers a 16-Posture I Ching Tai Chi Form.

    Jou, Tsung Hwa, in “the Dao of Taijiquan,” examines the binary system and correlates each trigram with a binary number (e.g. Heaven/3 solid lines/ 000)
    But Jou never connects this with taiji postures.

    Master Alfred Huang, cited by Loly, in his “The Complete I Ching,” introduces “Yarrow Stalk Oracles,” “Three Coin Oracles,” “Eight coin Magic,” and “Eight Gemstone Augurs.”
    He notes that one who masters the I Ching does not necessarily consult the text.

    Bruce’s bagua meditation is deeply related to the I Ching.

    But still, “So What?”

    I tend to agree with Dr. Yang, Jwing-Ming.
    (Ph.D in Mechanical Engineering)
    when he observes that many have tried to explain the deeper aspects of the 13 postures by using the 8 trigrams and the 5 elements, but unfortunately, none of the explanations are completely reasonable and without discrepancy.

    Good luck.

    #133390

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    Well that’s the question. I thought about it for a long time and the best I can come up with is a parallel with a scientific theory of the universe being a torus (just like how the 64 hexagrams are arranged in that paper). If every change in the universe is a change of 1 thing at a time with another neighbouring thing if you break it down to the most fundamental level then going by this theory then it would make sense that the universe is a torus. That’s a pretty big presumption and I’m looking to try and fill that gap of knowledge by some other means.

    In relation to any movement arts you could relate it as a flow of single changes in some directions and concurrent changes in others (in the hexagrams it would be vertical and horizontal as continuous single changes and diagonal as continuous double changes).

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    I have to agree with your “So what?” comment. I’ve puzzled through this stuff for years and years. I’ve come up with hundreds of ways to organize the material but never found a single way that explains it all.

    However, I’d add that I have used this process to gain a deeper understanding of Bruce’s material. Unfortunately, I can’t be sure whether I’m starting to really understand the subject or just go a little off the deep end. :)

    For example, my latest training with the wind palm circulates energy from the central channel to the edge of the etheric body. What’s odd is that when you reach the edge, the energy circulates back into the center of bones — its a quantum leap. You can pull from the central channel in the center of the bones to the etheric edge or you can pull inward from the etheric edge toward the central channel. Or in the case of the wind palm, you can have one hand pulling from the center to the periphery and one hand pulling from the periphery to the center. The heart/mind can feel the “circuit”. My sense is that the edge of the etheric body is directly connected to and also part of the central channel.

    Ask Bruce if he can do this. I just may be a deluded. Who knows? So what?

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