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good day all,
i’m sure it’s been around forever, but i just came across something regarding breathing. for lack of a better term, i refer to it as “reverse breathing” because that is exactly how it seems to me.
“when breathing in – breath into the chest and abdomen pulls in
when breathing out – abdomen pushes out”the Tibetans have a breathing pattern called “vase breathing” which is similar and causes energy to travel up the central channel
has anyone tried this and if so what comments might you publish??
cheers
daniel
Reverse Breathing in my first school was referred to as Warrior’s breath or Prenatal breath.
I’m sure at some point it will be touched on directly in the video series here, and if I’m not mistaken. there are already some mentions in the already released sections.My understanding is that it creates positive pressure in the abdomen and flushes the organs as well as compacts the Qi in the lower Tan Tien. there is a lot more muscle coordination, and conditioning involved. So I’ll let the teaching staff decide how they want to cover it without giving what I was taught myself here. (plus I want to hear the explanation and coordination too.)
right on…
You must remember to be very gentle with reverse breathing, and never do it under stressed conditions.
The energy of the body if not balanced will create illness as well as heal. Creating reverse pressure can cause such things as high blood pressure for example.
So not really a beginners technique without personal instruction. I guess Bruce will decide if to teach it or not.
Hope that helps
Dave
I’d agree with this (some prior forum postings comment about this topic).. also that many authors write about “reverse breathing” as more and up-down pressure in the guts (resulting in stretching intestines out, separating connection to the front of spine), vs it being an even sphere in the lower torso (not just down, but towards and away from the solar-plexus)
-aside, I think the term “reverse” breathing is needlessly, and perhaps purposefully, misleading -as it seems, from a feeling aspect… requiring a diff body-structure..
but if put your fist into the stomach area (in solarplexus-under sternum… thus in the space under the diaphram, as Bruce had us do once.. tricky to have the skill to ease it comfortable in there.. then clearly, as that area gets smaller (diaphram goes down= inhale, and below simul rises = shrinking.. that movement absorbs in core~lower-dan-tien area physically.. as the area gets larger (the opposite).. trick being all parts move (all the way up neck into head, and through armpits and down inside arms to hands, and via hip/kwas down legs to ankles.. -if just feel in gut, can jam stuff- if just moving diaphram, can pull it some… but the whole feeling like a water-balloon (thus moving assists, makes way for, the breath- not pull on)…
Then need keep the pressure (in torso-entire “even” whether Inhaling or exhaling (just as when circular breathe- however- in and out should “change the pressure” in the lungs… the movement of the diaphram changes the size of the lung-bags.. but that should be adapted to air flow.. not pressure change.. likewise, pressure in fluids (and nerve-signal-charge) changes in extremes, but diff quals of the same pressure… requires opening up all the flows and blocked off areas.. (can be like soak-wringing a rag/sponge to get it wet/rinsed up what is absorbed in it.release the dry-crusty areas… if too much/fast- that can be painful in movement/release– as vs sponge/rag.. the ‘living-tissue’
TMI above, but not sure if this helps (the other authors- oft connect a pushout, pull in gut- which will help build a beer-belly, and link that to the visualization-feel=nerve trigger the homonculus positions and call that the micro-cosmic.. and link the two together- with some other tension aspects, usually a quick 3 or 4second breath.. vs the Tao-water method usually “starting” at 30seconds (15inhale, 15sec exhale.. steady)- then working to 1min…. just the longer-easier breathing changes a lot.. come to see many of the descriptions that use similar terms, are actually talking about different practices.. so combining can confuse things. luck
Since we are getting some comment her on how to do Reverse Breathing I’ll just add this familiarize yourself with the entire abdominal muscle system including the pelvic diaphragm as well as the thoracic diaphragm and the transverse abdominus. these are the muscles that actually create pressure in the abdominal cavity.
There is universal agreement that the diaphragm is the principle muscle of breathing.
Kaminoff, “Yoga Anatomy,” (founder of The Breathing Project, NYC) points out the accessory role of the external intercostals in breathing.
He writes:
“Of all these thoracoabdominal layers of muscle,
only the external intercostals are capable of increasing thoracic volume.”On inhalation these accessory muscles pull the rib cage back and up.
Of course, when one part moves all parts move.
All parts of the body are involved in breathing.
And sometimes a certain muscle group flexes and the same muscle group sometimes stretches. Thus, the “inhaling” muscles of the external intercostals can also remain active during exhalation.Breathing is a tool.
“Breathing” can be defined in more than one way.
Try navel breathing.
Get in a full bathtub, do a back bend, sink your whole head, nose and mouth included, backwards under water.
But keep your navel above the water line.
Try breathing through your navel only.There are some weird theories about breathing floating around.
There is universal agreement that the diaphragm is the principle muscle of breathing.
Kaminoff, “Yoga Anatomy,” (founder of The Breathing Project, NYC) points out the accessory role of the external intercostals in breathing.
He writes:
“Of all these thoracoabdominal layers of muscle,
only the external intercostals are capable of increasing thoracic volume.”On inhalation these accessory muscles pull the rib cage back and up.
Of course, when one part moves all parts move.
All parts of the body are involved in breathing.
And sometimes a certain muscle group flexes and the same muscle group sometimes stretches. Thus, the “inhaling” muscles of the external intercostals can also remain active during exhalation.Breathing is a tool.
“Breathing” can be defined in more than one way.
Try navel breathing.
Get in a full bathtub, do a back bend, sink your whole head, nose and mouth included, backwards under water.
But keep your navel above the water line.
Try breathing through your navel only.There are some weird theories about breathing floating around.
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