Knee pain

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    Anonymous
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    Hello,

    I’m getting slight pain in the knee joints whilst bending my knees when my feet are parallel.
    When my feet are parallel both my knees face slightly inward when my feet are pointing straight ahead.
    My knees don’t track over the center of my feet they point towards my big toes.

    1. Am I better off having my feet at a slight angle (5-10 degrees or so) this way my knees and feet are back in alignment?
    2. Would I be better keeping my feet parallel and very slightly torque my knees to put my knees and feet back in alignment?
    3. Something completely different.

    Any ideas would be very welcome.

    Thanks,

    Adam

    PS. I was born with fallen arches so I do have flat feet if that is at all relevant.

    #135221

    Anonymous
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    Just a comment- what I’ve seen- when standing if a person has knees that point slightly ‘outside’ OR point slightly ‘inside’ .. that is a result of tension-pulling in the hip area- usually to the lower back (as well as a twist rolling in the thigh into the knee)… and yet it is perceived as “my knees, or my feet, just point that way” (not exactly the way you wrote it, but the way others oft refer to it)
    in other words- someone whos feet and knees do point straight, if you sort of pull on the tissue to shorten/tighten- in a slight corkscrew… either in ‘inner thigh knee-front towards back-higher up ~tail, and/or back of knee-along outside of leg to outer side of pelvis.. see how sort of pull on the skin, and deeper, in this way has the leg sort of tend to a twist.. (add to this in the ankle area- the positions the bones of the foot-arches.. likewise an issue of soft-tissue pulling on the bones, which bones adjust over time.. and thus re-position… fix by doing the reverse)

    so how to fix- either practice taichi alignment practice such that will support, and perhaps further disalign, the current posture-bone-tissue positioning.. or practice such that over time adjusts it? (depends upon your short-long term development.. 70% rule).. This Does-Not mean position your feet, position your knees, and stand- so that the torque is felt inside your jts (likely knees, or ankle or hip, even into low-back… just as a joint-lock-twist should be felt as a stretch in the soft-tissue… vs felt tearing the joint-capsule in martial-arts -how you want to receive it… even more so.. start with what feels easy stance, and note where the tissue is binding from the up-down-fwd.. (ie sit, or lie down as well as stand- without fully weight upon a leg.. to sense the alignment and tissue-pull.. [if fully stand-with-weight gravity and balance will override sensing, plus your habit…]
    Then maybe try a bit (5% adjust.. not fully– still at ease- way before feel torque anywhere.. but enough to feel more distinctly where it pulls.. vs it being too slight.. then back to your ‘usual’ etc.. )

    …………..
    ie unless your bones are twisted… (possible, but unlikely? -if broke and spiral-fracture didn’t heal right- some other issues also.. – so if we go with the idea that the bones- top to bottom are in alignment, then the question is whether the joint-capsule is bent-twisted (like a rubber ball that has top twisted like lid on a jar)..?
    -or if the soft-tissue was fully-released (let-go, not just intentional, but the held-tension, and further the spider-webby elastic-rubberband myo-fascial linkages are uneven in the ‘fabric).. if all that is released, would the bones easily ‘line-up’ ?? -and thus only the tissue pulling on it…? (just as a Sailing Ship, if the lines are pulled tight, and others loose, can put pressure on the mast uneven.. which can bend, or even break, over time.. -same principle In, onto, the Spine.. the ligaments and tendons pulling can balance the support of the disks..

    as the lines to a Ship’sMast… but if (when) those lines are uneven.. spine can (will) slip out of alignment.. (get them “adjusted”=pushed back in.. the same line-pulling uneven? will adjust back out.. )

    just as your knees, and also your arches, will.. but dress up the lines, let it adjust, then adjust further.. it adjusts.. over time to this pull…..

    #135222

    Anonymous
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    Thanks for taking the time to comment on my knee problem. Its appreciated. ~ Adam

    #135223

    Anonymous
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    You’re welcome, thx for saying so.. I hope it helps– let us know what you find

    (hopefully in my post-comment there are a few layers, so it might guide for a while)
    – either way, I hope you find the tweaks you need (as postural ‘twisting’ dis-align.. is a bummer, and definitely increases over the yrs- (these arts should help with it, vs adding to it) if you can’t find a live-person that can make adjustments and fdbk (takes a certain expertise, not as wide-spread as might be hoped), then hopefully you can ‘coach-yourself’

    -the key I think is that “lined-up” is a bit counter-intuitive.. and we know that there should be jt-pain, just ..cuz.. (except maybe not)..
    so that is tricky- luck (to you and all the others that might read this that have similiar issues. in their practice/understanding..)

    #135224

    Anonymous
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    Here’s my rather unorthodox take:

    Feet parallel,

    Grind toes in (visualize grinding out a cigarette butt),

    Twist fascia of lower leg outwards,

    Twist fascia of upper leg (thigh) inwards

    Open kwa outwards.

    The counter-twisting of the lower and upper fascia provides stability to the knee joint– having inward and outward
    pressure.
    Visualize how the strands of a cable strengthen it.

    This might prevent that inward bias of your knee.

    The “twisting” is more mental than physical.

    Bruce claims he can actually twist fascia (connective tissue– not muscles). He’ll say, “Can you see this? Yes or No?”
    On video I can never see any movement.
    I play with this by using my hands to physically twist the leg fascia–muscle groups follow.

    Knee health is paramount in these arts–
    You’ve gotta do something or your knee(s) will side-line you.
    I’ve calculated the number of weight shifts done in various forms.
    If you do two or three sets every day, the number is HUGE.
    Any incorrect practice repeated many times will cause injury.
    Bob

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