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July 8, 2015 at 7:32 pm #129355
AnonymousGuestGreetings,
I tend to have difficulty feeling clearly the bodily sensations tied to a subliminal emotion. I seem to experience emotion to thoughts and I am wondering how thoughts are tied to emotions.
What typically happens is I am meditating and I find myself distracted by a thought that is “emotional” in nature but without the sensation.
Is there an intermediary that I am missing? Has anyone had a similar experience?
Ive done Bruces Breathing Cds and am doing the Taoist meditation circle for the second time. This just seems to be an ongoing issue for me and I would love to hear what other peoples journey has been like on this topic.
Cheers,
Kevin
July 8, 2015 at 11:44 pm #135226
AnonymousGuestA few thoughts for approach, Kevin:
a) Bruce has pointed out time and again just accepting what’s there, not trying to do anything about it but accepting it. Maybe you’re doing something when accepting would be the doing something.
b) Maybe the sensation is inside the emotional-thought.
c) Maybe the sensation that goes with the emotional-thought is something you’re aware of but don’t pay much attention to (since it might be pleasant, not distracting, or capable of hiding in plain-sight by its ability to pseudo-sooth) and the emotional-thought is like a “check engine” light telling you to pay attention to your sensations. i.e. an emotional-thought doesn’t necessarily predicate a new sensation, it might be one you are already dealing with.
d) In which case the emotional-thought is just trying to distract you from what you’re already working on. Which could be helped by just accepting it.
e) Also, maybe you’re being too aggressive with your meditation and the emotional-thought is another “check engine” light that says “stop trying so hard!!” while simultaneously pointing you back in the direction of what you’re working on in which the ghost-sensation is blending into its surroundings.
Bit of a shotgun-suggestion. Hope it hits something.
Cody
July 10, 2015 at 2:42 pm #135227
AnonymousGuestGood morning Cody,
Thanks alot for your reply- I found it very helpful. It feels like the”accepting what is there ” and stop trying so hard is something I sorta realized in my last session so hearing it here too feels right.
These practices are so amorphous and deep yet so Simple! Letting go to what is, and I think what Im realizing is just that! Feeling what is and not overthinking it.
Ill work with this and see where it takes me.
Thanks alot Cody!
kev
July 12, 2015 at 5:58 pm #135228
AnonymousGuestYour welcome and thoroughly satisfied that I can help. Makes me feel like I can help myself with my meditation problems.
I’ve been having an impossible time trying to meditate but I get all the stuff going on and seeing when somebody else is stuck and how to troubleshoot the problem. Just wish I could figure out what the hell I can do to meditate.
Just to air it out, I’m basically dealing with something like a sentient-blockage. If I do this, it does that, if I do that, it does something else. It jumps about all over the place each time I try to approach it. And it feels like it’s in charge of the reset button or degauss switch on my consciousness, because it keeps spacing me out. I’ll try and settle into acceptance, and it thoroughly rattles me for it.
I gotta say, it feels like I’m possessed!It gets a little better each day but then again, who knows? It might be a perceptual trick that keeps it going and keeps me miserable.
What you’re dealing with rang a bell for me because every time I try to accept it, it’s like it says “do you!?!” and up comes all the emotional-static and I’m back to the beginning.
Just writing it out like this makes me notice that accepting it as a kind of possession is very helpful.
I just have to maintain meditative focus on coming back to that statement of acceptance, i.e. accepting that it’s possession.
Not watering it down or wriggling out of it.…and thank you, kev, for helping me talk this out.
July 18, 2015 at 10:20 pm #135229
AnonymousGuestMy new threshold in this area:
See
Energy Arts Training Circle,
Old Yang Style Tai Chi Edition,
Month 3,
Meditation Section,
Meditation Session 1,
“Maintaining Awareness in the Body,”
1. Keep connected to your diaphragm,
2. Do Bruce’s 5 point relaxed awareness exerciseBruce indicates that later in the course he will apply this to dissolving blockages– including emotional blockages I assume.
For me this is proving to be very profound, very powerful, very empowering.
Bob
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