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Something I’ve noticed, there seems to be an approach our “popular-culture” sees to do things: 3 points- A) what something-we’re-seeking might be like,
the way to get there, and C) the mind-space-place one ‘thinks’/does it from.. all upon an underlying “logic”..
By this mean- we think some movement art that is thought-to-be smooth moving.. so we imagine smooth movement- and contrast that “a bit more” than how we (think/exper) that we move now.. thus a ‘delta’.. and then just “try and make more like that”…..
the essence of a system of learning is when a progression is either not in our “common-sense” understanding (ie how our socio-culture sees the world- contrast “today’s world” with how the “medieval world-view” made sense of things. etc.) — for ex, above, perhaps to develop smoothness, first one should develop some other skill that one wouldn’t normally conceive of (not just seen from that “contrast”) .. -let alone if what the skill “will be like” isn’t what we think it is…. [how many skills, once we achieve some capability, are actually quite a bit different than we anticipated.] -another ex, if we see a place 5 steps in front, we see “there” and here.. and figure one-step fwd, and then another step, etc… but if a journey going south, we might actually be advised to start going east, or even north, instead.. (obstacles, vs as-the-crow-flies.. also say “north” is the nearest airport.. and the journey south is long…- but if merely see “directions” may not be obvious- ie specific knowledge, not “common sense”?)
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So in addition to A and B (referenced above), i find that C is a tricky issue- the mind-space one thinks/acts from/with… espec if doing “live” martial flow, but even in chigung/ neigong (espec Shenkung), and it seems the Taoist natural-spontaneity is not only becoming from of just following our internal-programming (whether habit or “whim” both are just doing what the programs in our subcon tell us to do- but to “consciously”/freely act)… the trick of how to, not OODA, as in See, interp, think, Act/response.. even if sped up, but to flow each-all parts as a whole, during each micro-moment…[what I’ve been noticing is if one is sensing, and reacting, to and in smaller-moments, that one can’t see a big-macro “I’m going over there”, but more a slight morphing of shape, and then.. (by the time one has thought, this is what i’m doing, or this is the shape I’ve changed “Ah, this is what I’ve doing…” – one is already quite out of the moment, and in a memory-symbol, and thus disconnected from the flow.. so requires an entirely different type of thinking— at least that’s what I’m thinking
–thoughts?] cheers
Just to add some example details to this:
___________Artificial Chemotaxis, acting as “life” (reaction ~choice as more a response of the materials-reaction… our systems also just triggered by ‘conditions’?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQf9vZqv7k
As Bruce refers to the distinction between Meditation, and merely ‘meditative’.. both Meditation, as well as phy-energetic “Internal martial arts” are recognzing of the many layers of experience how much are occuring, which can be otherwise (and we can experience directly) -often we robotically respond on auto-pilot.
if, for ex, say 90% of what is actually occurring, just clicks next-next-next.. and in addition we only experience it “downstream” (like a company that has a staff meeting- summarizes findings, and those are passed along to the next “group” which _only_ sees those “SummaryFindings”.. and again… all the way up.. time-delay, not only on what is “perceived”.. but even to Notice- become aware- of what we are doing, as we do it… — we move a hand, or take a step, and those “changes” trickle up through the process- and we only become “aware” after time….
like the delay linkage of the [ pressed space-bar ] to the light.. if we see just-a-bit more directly.. it happens faster? (seen before we act? – as in this next videos exper.. although that is still “after” — thus the causality confusion… beyond concept, to actually experience (and thus be able to do, to act from) puts one in a different perspective. [ This, altered perspective, enriched world-view, just a step on Transformation.. part of what TaiChiChuan practice is to bring?
All you are saying is that people are stuck in their mind. And I mean stuck, many people do not even feel their balls. Let alone their hearts or anything spiritual.
And you are right if it is your mind that is doing Chi Kung then nothing is actually happening.
A story I have been told : if a mountain climber find himself on a precarious position, he is anxious … now if he starts to think and think he will fall off an die … the correct approach is to let the intelligence of your body figures it out physically.
Likewise if someone throws a ball at your head, you will duck in a split second. Who is ducking ? Who is able to make such a critical decision in a split second ?
Only the body is that powerful.
The mind ? You need to feed the mind 2 cups of capuccino before it can do anything.
The body fixed the danger in 120 millseconds.
But … humans are lost and stuck in the idiot that they call their mind. They do not recognize the reality of their life.
Who made your body ? You didn’t.
Who makes your breathing ? You didn’t.
Who will take your body ? You will not.The one who says “I” has very little responsibility for what is happening. When you wake up it dawns on you.
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
I can draw down a window shade
between my brain
and the space outside my brain on the other side of the window shade (when drawn down.)
The brain houses the inner five thieves
(eyes, ears, tongue, body, nose) and the soul hooligan.
On the other side is where I think without thinking.
Gotta be careful, the window shade can whap back up fast.
the way to get there, and C) the mind-space-place one ‘thinks’/does it from.. all upon an underlying “logic”..
–thoughts?] cheersThis is an archived forum (read only). Go to our active forum where you can post and discuss in real time.