Warm up 3

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    Hi:

    For warm up 2 and 3, I put a chair right in front of my knee to make sure my knee doesn’t move at all when doing these two warm ups.

    When I watched the video of Paul doing warm up 3, I noticed that not only is his knee not moving anywhere, his but/hip area is also not moving.

    Whenever I try to do warm up 3 myself, I find that if I lean forward, I almost have to move my hip backward in order to balance myself. Otherwise, I will fall forward. The only way I can move my hip backward without moving the knee is to move lower. But that means I am basically doing warm up 2.

    So my question is this. Can my hip move a little bit to help me balance myself better as I lean forward? Or do I have to do what Paul is doing, which is that the hip doesn’t move at all?

    Any insight from anyone will be highly appreciated. If what I have written is not making sense at all, please point it out and I will try to clarify my question.

    Thank you

    Charlie Kao

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    Hi,

    I too have to move my hips backward in order to keep my balance in Warmup n°3.

    I think what Paul Pavel does in the video is fairly advanced (he goes very low and his spine expands a lot, things that a beginner can not do) and should be seen as an eventual goal but not as a model to immediately imitate.

    Cheers,

    Erwan

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    Just to support what Erwan has already mentioned (thus what do I need to add? :) but only as there were other questions on the forum about other exercises, chigung, or TaiChi even in the HsingI sections, or dissolving/meditation- people asking why a drill/skill is taught, which teaches XYZ attribute, and why someone doing it can’t easily do it.. (to put it roughly, forgive my phrasing)- just that was a distinction I saw in teaching-cultures, as between:
    ………
    (notably the ‘belt-systems” or graded- a exercise is given, which someone is judged to be ready-for before they are given the assignment.. so they “should be able to do it” — this is how my grade-schooling etc was ?) if you can’t there is a sense, why not? if you can, repeat a bit, ok, here is the next-incremental next-step…

    -vs what I saw where there aren’t many level-forms but rather a single container that one learns (like learning a foreign language- it is all there from the beginning.. but don’t jump at once.. but it doesn’t get more complicated as one learns- unless the system draws a box- and says there be dragon’s outside of.. this is not needed… ) thus a neigung set could be shown and continually work on and upgrade closer.. neither is better, but different skills.

    -also Beginner exers, let alone intermediate material (those terms can stretch at times as Bruce uses- even a Beginner may be someone that has struggled with awhile.. not just first time viewer.. and intermediate isn’t later that same-first-day, nor even after a while.. but “graduate” so to speak.. so “if one hasn’t a graduate lvl-experience nor graduate-lvl training, how can one do graduate-lvl work?” that is a tricky question- perhaps just “see as an eventual goal” as Erwan puts..
    (realize what one can work-upon/with based-upon what one can do- now, and plan to return and review.. more than a few time and go over, and reeval.. not just the graded-system of once gone through it and done…)
    -contrasted to the graded-system would interpret if one viewed-learned a lesson, it is learned- it was all there on the surface, and anything missed the first time, was my error.

    (above merely some thought I try and keep in mind myself, after coming to realize a big difference in two paradigm-approaches to presenting.. and my choice of the second-way.. as the first required another deciding what “i am ready for” – and then more info being needed, vs “learning how to fish” etc. – and thus can return and mine for more gold.) -cheers

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