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If you read my previous post, you know that I was looking at the hexagrams as representing a state which is nothing more than a set or groups of yins and yangs. Yang, yin, mix. The hexagrams are a mix. Only two of them are pure. I also proposed that for anything to change – one, some, or all of the lines has to change to its opposite. But, where’s the change?
In Lake the yin and yang aspect of anything is brought into the middle, emptiness, and can change from there. It can flip or re-emerge as the same thing. You are totally free but you also can’t control it. As soon as you try to control it, you are controlled.
In Thunder, you have to stay awake and connected at the extremes and then you let it go. This allows the next thing to happen whatever that will be.
Each palm change has a unique way of changing. You need to find and understand where’s the change?
Thanks James,
We’ve been discussing “change” for a long time.
Bagua Palm Changes.
I-Ching hexagram changes.I like Taokua’s recent caution,
“matching up concepts … distorts each of the principles…”Still, I’d like to find some correlation between bagua and I-Ching changes.
Take the “Lake” hexagram for example:
In the I-Ching, Lake doesn’t just willy-nilly change into anything.
There is a set pattern.
Only one of the lines changes at a time, from bottom upward.
First, the bottom yang line (initial Nine) changes to yin;
the bottom Lake trigram then is changed to Water, which creates the new hexagram of “Exhausting,” (Kun–47, Water under Lake.)I don’t see any analogy to any bagua palm change here.
But wait…
In Lake when all lines of the hexagram flip to their opposites, the Inverse Gua hexagram of Wind (Xun) is created (Xun–57, Wind under Wind).
So, here there is a correlation between the I-Ching and bagua.
Same with Heaven (south) (ä·€, heaven) and Earth (north).
When all the yang lines of Heaven change to all yin lines, Heaven changes to Earth.Heaven bagua Palm Change changes to the Earth Palm Change.
The change is radical from the Single Palm Change to the Double Palm Change.
Have I distorted principles?
Once you arrive at the place where you realize that the palm changes are independent of the energy bodies, the layers within the physical body, and the 16 part neigung – you are left wondering what’s unique about each change?
Although I’ve found that the movements of each palm change makes certain aspects of neigung more accessible than others, I’m still confused about what makes each truly unique. I still think the Heaven Palm Change is fundamentally about the yang expansion and the Earth Palm is about the force of yin absorption, and all the others are about mixing these two forces. I can metaphorically get that the Wind Palm is like changing directions by taking a corner slowly with a mile radius and the Thunder Palm is like taking a hairpin corner on the Pacific Coast highway as fast as possible. Those both have unique qualities. And I can apply them to neigung elements, layers of tissue, chi mechanics, energy bodies, etc, etc.
But why is there a big demarcation between the first four palm changes and the next four?
I think the answer may be the “unseen” world. What if the psychic world is how a yang expansion suddenly appears back in the center again like a big, non-physical loop? I’m saying what if when you expand into a part of the etheric body powerfully or clearly enough it starts coming out its corresponding place inside the physical body.
This might sound crazy but I’ve experienced this in meditation and it wasn’t a gap. I didn’t space out or blank out and wake up in another place. I’m not talking about the monkey mind.
If true, it would add another definition to center to periphery, periphery to center. It would fit the description of “unseen world”. That type of change would be quite unique to the first four I just described. What if Fire was the expansion showing up inside and continuing to expand while the Water Change was the absorption showing up outside and continuing to absorb? Mountain would be all of it happening in all directions simultaneously. Lake the integrator where it becomes neither yang nor yin.
Who knows?
The latter part of this post is probably horse manure, but the first part is accurate. In Module 14 video 25, Bruce lays out how the spiraling of the Fire Palm Change can access any layer and how that layer relates to one of the eight energy bodies.
He summarizes the goal as getting everything to go out and then in.
I’ll add that I’m targeting between the opposing twists. That seems to be where the energy will really go out in from. It can be equally applied to a single bone, set of them, or the lower and upper guas. Again, it is the middle that is being targeted.
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