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As you gain more and more control of the CSF something happens: you start to realize you are using a lot of unnecessary strength. The CSF doesn’t need it. It will respond to what the mind directs instantly. This is where you really start to relax and I’m guessing where relaxing into your being starts to become a reality.
The “central channel” starts showing up in the bones as well as the fluid. Watch module 2 video lesson 8 where Bruce talks about creating peng jin in the shins. That’s done with the CSF and comes from the center of the bones. If you can get the CSF down into the tailbone, you’ll be able to feel exactly what Bruce describes in the shins.
Relaxed control of the CSF makes the basic Bagua palm work exactly the way Bruce describes in other videos. The whole practice of trying to direct the body through the relaxed CSF begs the question of what’s doing the directing or who am I?
So, once again, when you don’t know what comes next – practice what you know.
What’s doing the directing?
Why, Homunculus, of course.
The little man inside your head.
Indeed, right now there is a little man inside your computer that makes it all work.
No matter how far science drills down,
there’s always another little man who must be doing the directing.Homunculus is the enigmatic symbol of the most troubling challenge to science: the marker for the existence of ententional phenomena.
Deacon, “Incomplete Nature; How Mind Emerged from Matter,” 2012.There is no complete theory of everything (Godel).
Actually what i see many involved in “Meditation” (so-called: if it relates to working with the clay-matter and structure of mind, not just some of what it does…), let alone nei-gung (and free-flow martial based-upon- “change-with-the-change” what changes?)… is the thought that action, and perception, is not only from an object-Homoculus.. but actually that what “does” is me… (and the ‘me’ is recognized to be an end result of percolating to the surface..?)
if the ‘me’ is a result of what the layers below are doing, consolidated-integ as a whole, then that is “bootstrapping” .. as in (literally) “lifting one’s self up by one’s bootstraps” ~levitation.. (as opposed to the go-gettin= make-it-happen colloquial)
A few Medieval paintings have this great imageo reference: a marionette-puppet hanging from strings, and the puppet’s hands are holding sticks that reach up and connect to a frame-support high-above the puppet-stage.. and from that frame-support descends strings which are controlling the “puppeteer” (which seems to be controlling the puppet(s).. etc.)
(There could be a view that he “mind” emerged from matter, then can circle-back and influence the matter-processes that resulted, and are resulting, in that mind-arising.. but perhaps not? -or even if, not so simple, as the looking-at, let alone tweaking those processes will change the doer enough unrecognizable? (how continue focused action as, and why continue to act if what triggered that action has changed…) –in short, can the persona-I’m going to do this, acted-upon, let alone act-thru, what it is end-result of (marionette seeking to work its own strings.. as well as to hold-its-self-up………
–that just being the character that the puppet is (like an actor can play a character that seeks to realize it is a role, but that is still the character being player.. not the character realizing the player… only the actor can view itself as the player, and the character… -if that makes sense. [this relates to the aspects of pseudo-science: sounds-good is tied-in to the this is what our culture knows- “any reasonable person would clearly think…” -which I find is actually a response to the drive to close-off the issue (called “explain”) … having the “why” is troubling, the thoughts want to close-in-down (even, if doesn’t matter not-signif, does this).. an application of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeigarnik_effect [ex: these 3 items: first- the Homonculus, second- sense of me, the puppet pulling its own strings…]
is the Homoculus, a functional-object imaged interpretation, or perhaps part of the trickle-up emergence? -the puppeteer, the strings, or just imaginings of the puppet itself? -yet there are still strings (ie a process- driven from).==========
A bigger issue, I think, is whether one is interacting with (doing upon and via, as well as perceiving) what is there, or the interpretation of what is sensed- and only dealing with the representation of that interp… (this being prevalent- 80%, actually 95%.. =99.999% etc.)
[which slips in the how much of perception, and thus any action, -and “choices” – is seen as coming from X per that being part of the representation we have… -Is how I see my-self, and what is driving this, part of the story I’m telling, and not even what I’m actually experiencing? Thus that Who am I? or even better what/how am I?— ( all the implied-understandings that slip in: from our culture and language = “Everybody knows that…” … so tricky, like a drug-habit; temptation to include in, the need. Yet.. these assumptions, not only slow, and disempower, from directly contacting, let-alone distract-distort with pseudo-understandings, as they sound-good.. vs only include a referenced model-explanation if it is provably relevant (ie that saying, “And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?” .. well, it “explains” -ie bolsters, this idea ~method.. vs a method having a loose-idea to organize it, but the bolstering legitimacy coming-from the steps themselves.) The price of tea in China… -what ‘am’ I? (what is occuring now/how?) – as that changes, not explained, but seen/grasped, that changes all one can do, and thus the nature of one’s exper and the poss.
Are you approaching shen or running in the opposite direction?
All of the postures, all of the exercises, all of hand waving, all of it comes down to finding your core. It has nothing to do with thought or thinking. It isn’t intellectual. When you find it you understand why Bagua organizes around Heaven and Earth. For me the early glimpses are like seeing that everything is just borrowed. Take it all away and what do you have left? This isn’t supposed to be contemplated. It is experienced.
Of course I could just be deluded. That’s a lot easier.
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