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April 25, 2013 at 9:37 am #128783
AnonymousGuestHello,
I have a friend who is unable to stand. He had to have an operation a few years ago and there were ‘complications’. As a result he has ended up with problems with the nerves in his feet and his docters are unable to say what went wrong. As a result he uses crutches and is unable to stand but i believe has some limited use of his feet. I dont really know any more than that so im not asking for a diagnosis. Is there any part of the energy arts system whch can be used by someone unable to stand? Thanks in advance for anyone able to offer advice.
Jem
April 26, 2013 at 4:49 am #133376
AnonymousGuestYou can do a lot of it in your mind while laying down since your chi follows your intent. It doesn’t work as well though.
Probably the best for a beginner would be some of dragon and tiger qigong where you trace up and down your legs with your hands. It’s quite easy to do (in a relative sense).
April 26, 2013 at 11:42 am #133377
AnonymousGuestThanks Cameron.
April 26, 2013 at 5:51 pm #133378
AnonymousGuesthello, just to followupon what Cameron wrote- doing many of the movements of Energy Arts Neigung can be useful if one cannot stand:
two conditions would be if a person has no use of their legs (cannot move them, then moving via the etheric field nearby, as well as drawing out from or drawing in towards, like in Dr&T); if on the other hand the person has some movement of their legs (as I believe you mention) them involving a “pulsing” in the legs is a strong boost to the system and easier to learn for most people when seated (feet off the ground), also movement (pulsings or twistings- started in upper part of body, can encourage movement down through the legs.
Also like the taichi lengthenings~ cloud hands seated.. have to figure how to adjust the pelvis= no lower back turning of the spine… so how to turn side to side without twist-spine. sort of lean-rock on oneside of hip)As I wrote the above, I recall Bruce mentioning on of the best (even if one has last part of leg, immobilized (joint replacement etc) then missing part of the “circuit”- so how keep that linked up? The issue being to have the “energy” flow down through back up and then down again… so a big issue (sounds not too exciting but I think the biggest) is the alignments… (which can go to connecting into and “through” the joints.. making the legs more alive (thus the scanning-awareness.. dissolving process espec in the legs..
(as the saying 1 part of energy in the legs is 10 parts worth in upper.. while takes 10 parts (or 10times) of energy in upper to equal 1 part in lower.. ) thus even if not stand on, as long as get flow moving through.. (and like an arm in a sling.. not utilized- but don’t want it to “go to sleep” and lose awareness-life in it.. feel into it, wakes it up a bit)
to return to aligns in lower legs- a big part of NeiGung in Seated or Lying down Meditation- and not moving there… I hope that adds something- luck on your work with this person and what you might discover
April 27, 2013 at 9:32 am #133379
AnonymousGuestHi Jem,
Dragon and Tiger Qigong can be practiced both sitting and laying down. It is also a very gentle form of qigong that can have a powerful therapeutic effect.
The Dragon and Tiger Qigong DVD has a few video demonstrations of how the form can be done while sitting or laying down.
http://www.energyarts.com/store/products/dvds/dragon-and-tiger-medical-qigong-set-dvd
Kind regards,
Energy Arts TeamMay 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm #133380
AnonymousGuestThanks for the helpful advice everyone!
June 10, 2013 at 4:07 am #133381
AnonymousGuestHi Jem,
I have severe chronic back pain. For many years, standing and practicing anything for more then 5 minutes was incredibly painful. I could force myself through the pain, but as a result I spent most of the time thinking about how much pain I was in, and little time actually being present to what I was practicing.
I really started to make progress when I started to heavily practice dissolving while laying in bed. Laying in bed was the least painful position I could be in and it allowed me to spend most of my time paying attention to my dissolving practice.
Normally, laying down practices are considered to be very difficult. The main difficulty is that people usually fall asleep. In my case, staying awake was less difficult then tolerating my back pain. So for me, it was a very productive practice.
I’m not sure how well this might work for your friend, but I thought I’d share my experience and give you another option to try!
Janak
August 4, 2013 at 12:11 pm #133382
AnonymousGuestHi Janak,
Apologies for not noticing your response earlier, i dont check these things regularly. Thankyou for your advice. I have some other posts you make on the forum and i appreciate and practical and grounded your comments are. This will be very helpful!
Jem
August 5, 2013 at 3:27 pm #133383
AnonymousGuestNo problem!
When your friend has been practicing for a while, I hope you come back and post an update to this thread.
I think it would be helpful to hear about your friends experiances. What did or didn’t work for them? In the future, when someone in a similiar situation is searching the forums, they’ll have at least one case study that they can read. And that might help them get started!
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