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    Okay. I just went back and watched some of the first Fire Palm videos and realized that the whole sequence of layers I’m going through was described in the Fire Palm Change. Bruce summarizes the four stages on module 14 video lession 3 @ 7:40.

    He describes four stages (even though there are 5 parts): feeling the arm better, feeling the blood, feeling the nerves, feeling the ligaments then fascia.

    He is also progressing along the arm to the shoulder to the shoulder’s nest to the organs. Sound familiar? I’ll add that I don’t think it ends there. It actually goes into the bones. The ligaments and fascia begin working as a connected whole and condense into the bones. The most important place to start is the heel of the foot (at least for me it was).

    The purpose of all of this is to get the chi of the body to move. Then you can consider the chi of the mind (all of this is on the video right from Bruce).

    He says the chi of the mind is the same stuff but a variation on a theme.

    #136387

    Anonymous
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    So, where is the change in all of this?

    As far as I’m concerned, Bruce is just describing neigung. All of the steps are common to any complete neigung set.

    In Module 14 video 25 Bruce gives the bigger picture. Ultimately he is describing connecting the inside to the outside etheric field.

    I still think the layers open up specific parts of the field but staying connected is the most important point. I plan to go back and fill in. I’m still concentrating on inside of the body. I’ve only gone out satisfactorily with the shallowest layer.

    At some time, I think I’ll need to be able to go all the way in and all the way out from the bones and even going in both directions simultaneously. In this palm change I would separate the side channels and close and open simultaneously using the last movement where one hand is closing and the other is opening.

    #136388

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    Thanks James,

    I’ve always been a little confused about what layers/stages you are talking about.
    But, I think I see what you’ve been talking about now.

    My confusion stems from all of the different kinds of “layers” in the energy arts system.
    There seems to be:
    a) these physical layers,
    b) 8 energy body layers,
    c) 16 Neigong layers
    d) outer layers and
    e) inner layers
    f) 8 I-Ching trigram layers

    Say, for example, your elbow hurts
    (tennis elbow? –lateral epicondylitis–tiny tears in the forearm tendons).

    What’s the problem/solution?
    a) blood/ligaments/nerves/fascia?
    b) blockage caused by past emotional/karma trauma?
    c) no spiraling energy?
    d) etheric body in outer space?
    e) inner space/heart-mind/soul?
    f) unbalanced change from water to fire elements?

    Bruce says he used the energy arts system to heal his broken back and recently his shoulder.

    Looks to me like all these layers are involved–plus icing and an elbow brace or cortisone or surgery.

    I haven’t had tennis elbow or plantar fasciitis since I stopped playing tennis and running years ago.
    But I can image the pain involved in doing the Fire Palm with tennis elbow and plantar fasciitis.

    However, thanks to you and Bruce for pointing out the integration of the physical layers of the yin and yang layers of the physical body.
    I’ve never thought of doing ba gua focusing on one of these physical layers.

    Although knowing that there are also 12 energy gates of the elbow and 16 neigong levels and much, much more, makes the analysis rather complicated.

    Bob

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    Anonymous
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    One of the interesting things to note about the Fire Palm Change is that the same absorption can create both a closing or an opening.

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    I didn’t want to forget that spiraling not only works sections of limbs going in opposing directions, it also works the guas similarly as well as opposing layers. All of this is for one purpose: target an area. The Wind Palm does exactly the same thing for the same purpose except it is intersecting two sides (whether that side is left/right, up/down, front/back, or center/periphery doesn’t matter).

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