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  • #133581

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    Hi Jim…. just as I’ve had on my mind sortof what you described, I thought I’d add something (been scribing a bunch of comments recently, so I’ll see if this completes them for a while.. put out there some completions..

    anyway- you end with concern bout ametureish content (reaching for something beyond our ability to describe, seeks new vocab and metaphor.. ala HumptyDumpty in Through the LookingGlass- get words to do what they haven’t and don’t usually do.. I’d say that is something worthwhile- saying what people know how to say, and are used to saying/hearing.. is already done, so why “waste the air” so to speak… but could also be not just how to say something new, but also being unclear of what you are experiencing (which is partly the subcon describing it to yourself’- which prods to tap and directly experience, without telling the story to your self.. which is tricky).

    Anyway- just a potential, your last description of “conttaction ~ compression in lower abs.. -fluid referred movement, which affects blood (and general-overall blood pressure, espec via the intra-ab artery).. but moreso the Cerebral-Spinal fluid….
    by changing the CSF pressure, that directly can press up through spine, to affect the atlas-axis and into brain-cavity (ringing in ears, and eye phospheres).. which ‘can’ give a clarity to perception and thought.. or distort that (depending upon your circulation and structures.. etc… so it can mess-up a bit..

    above is CSF directly referring pressure, indirectly that pressure, even just lower down Lumbar-spine-verts.. affects nerves etc…
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    an overlooked one, which Islander cultures, like Indonesian Martial arts use the pressure on the lymphatic pools that are just fwd (anterior) the lumbar-spine– behind intenstines.. so nearly in “lower dantien” region… altering pressure there, (espec if even and steady, not forced and fixed) can be felt through Interstitial fluid (even as if the intercellular tissue waves and fluxs)…

    not sure if you’ve heard of KAP (group that came from Glenn Morris’s work- he wrote a few books about his work with that, although I didnt really get specifcs from his work).. anyway- that sort of stuff is levearging the system (and can amplify already existing imbalances.. or else highlight such imbalances.. so you can work on stuck-pts etc…

    [just my opine, this is hydraulic, and indirect nervous-system triggering– higher level, vs lower down. If affecting the Myofascial web, that works deeper.. and all that- I think- is not working with “chi” nor with Kundalini.. can make distinct affects, but not the same as Kundabuffer arising.. just a viewpt]

    I hope any of that adds something- luck

    #133582

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    About 3 months back I started attending classes in Sahaja Yoga and received an awakening of my kundalini on day one. There are 2 of us in the class that experience and energy on the center of our heads. Everyone experiences something different as it is unique to each individual. With daily meditation I have found this sensation has become stronger and I feel a constant tingling around my entire head now. If I concentrate on it a all the tingling increases. I have also come across what is called “reverse breathing” which I have implemented into my meditation and daily life, I find when concentrating on this method it “fuels” the tingling. I have spoken in-depth with my teacher at Sahaja Yoga and he has advised it is the kundalini that I am feeling at my crown chakra (without me getting into Sanskrit terminology) and I am lucky to have this, many people strive for this for many years. I find it extremely useful as a reminder through the course of every day to stay in a state of thoughtless awareness, even when at work. I t has made me come to realise that life is all about unconditional love, something the world needs more of. So for those of you who are seeking, don’t give up as it is true, when you are ready, it will find you !

    #133583

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    I must reply to you cause I saw you comment and must correct you. You wrote that you respect work of Satyananda Saraswati and Swami Shivananda /Bihar School and Divine Life Society. If you have read his work carefully specially most advance yogic practices called Prana Vidya then you would understand that prana shakti is indeed same as kundalini but because we live usually with very low levels of prana we think its something special and different. There is only one energy in our system that work on different levels and all this is prana. We think it is different cause this prana can be gross -unrefined or subtle and refined. More our prana becomes refined more is kundalini awakened or close to awakening, Kundalini is nothing but very refined and powerful pranic force, much more pwerful than in our everyday life, so we can create extraordinary things when awakened, it is like we operate on 220 V and then suddenly 10000V, so chakras and sushumna channel have to be purified and empowered first with pranayama and then when prana is high enough then that dormant powerful prana shakti get awakened and from then on our prana is always on high level, even if we have lots of sex, or at least it accumulate back much faster than before kundalini awakening. That why it is called pranayama- practice that accumulate prana and when enough prana is there, together with bandas that serves as fuel for that supreme prana awakening that is called just with different name cause its much more powerful force of pranic flow than out ordinary everyday pranic flow. I just had to clarify this. One more thing, chi is also prana, but probably more gross prana on more physical level. That is why tai chi will make you vital but you will not experience deep meditative states or higher consciousness with it, but it is still good for health. Jaya Shakti Devi Om.

    #133584

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    Thank you Sandman, your post is of highest knowledge though written simply, you have managed to understand purpose of it all, and yes indeed according to your understanding your kundalini is awakened, so you are very lucky one in a milion, it is very easy to theorise but little more difficult to let go of mind and cut off the head and just jump deep into abyss of nothingness, when ego have been transcended kundalini soon awake, people like to theorise cause that is safe for ego, but someone awakened will make you silent and aware of your ignorance, that we indeed know nothing, there is no point to theorise about spiritual, you have to jump in it. All the best. Om

    #133585

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    Hello Catherine,
    I would just like to clarify that Kundalini Shakti is indeed prana, it is just more refined and much more powerful flow of prana than our everyday prana we use for normal activities.
    I have jumped into ocean or better universe of spiritulity before ca. 20 years and got into regular sadhana. I just love this knowledge and for better clarification read book Prana Vidya from Satyananda Saraswati. Book have not much pages but those practices are one of most advance yogic practices, and you can also learn in book that awakened prana shakti is indeed prana, just much more accumulated, refined flow than our ordinary. Asanas, Pranayamas, Bandhas, Kumbhakas are all tools for purification and empowerment of chakras and sushumna channel. Then after some years of dedicated practice can more advance practices like <kundalini <kriyas and prana vidya be effective not before. we have 5 koshas- -physical, prana -astral, mental – astral, intuitive and blissful – and prana is in all this from gross prana to most subtle and samadhi is when we transcend all 5 koshas-. you can also write to senior teachers in Bihar School of yoga for clarification. Prana, Shakti, Godess, Devi, KUndalini is all the same. All the best.

    #133586

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    3 things I can say with some confidence are :

    1. Taoism is concerned with the Tan Tien and the illumination from this centre (downwards). Indian spirituality is concerned with the illumination of consciousness in the head (up). In Indian chakra system there is no Tan Tien (their manipura chakra is simply the SP). In fact each path on this Earth is realising different centres, some go to the head, some the Tan Tien, some the heart. Incredible that this is not widely understood.

    2. Humans talk about “I felt this energy” or whatever. I felt a blue light, or a green energy etc… Well this is cheap stuff and won’t take you to salvation. Such energy fans have to keep pushing the electric button to feel anything because actually they are not going anywhere.

    The question if not if you can feel an energy or feel a chakra, but who is that chakra ? Is it just a passing bus … or is there a way that you can be that energy permanently and without effort ?

    3. The head has a number of portals. If you look at ancient paintings of Shiva / Krishna / Christianity / Laotse etc… you will notice that they are not on the top of the head. Look at them closely.
    (The top of the head is a good place to damage yourself.)

    And if you look at Taosit paintings, where are the portals that are being activated ?

    #133587

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    Not sure how to relate to the first question but the way I experienced the controls in my head was maybe in relation to the moon or internal clock? Maybe the moon is an outer representation of the internal clock? That’s my best experience of it

    #133588

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    So I have practiced the spiritual arts early on as a child. I naturally had out of body experiences astral projection. As I grew older I started to work with it more and really develop into lucid dreaming and dream work. As I became more interested in meditation I started practicing present moment yoga. I’d slip into rhythmic breathing patterns in a sort of beta mode consciousness. Where I was awake but not connected to the outer. Later on through my practices I had an almost opening of an infinite pedalled lotus flower where it was like falling into a green and grey infinite pedalled lotus flower. Many experiences followed and I also used natural substances such as marijuana and mushrooms to open my third eye or enhance visions. Finally as I became more experienced in the year 2012 I did a kundalini hypnosis by a name of practicitoner Steve G Jones. As I slipped into rhythmic breathing the practitioner coaxed the serpent up my spine. It was like balls of energy virbrated from one to the next. One problem I’m having in my ego or a matter of whether or not I should of done it at that time is I was on a certain diet pill called phentermine. That’s an amphetamine of course. Its been 5 years since then and I feel these I don’t if its like discarnate energy or beings but literally jumping in and out of my skin. The walls cracking… Sometimes my pain or ego tells me there’s things trapped and I fear for their wellbeing. Also loud noises tend to trigger pain or its like I’m reliving the same reality. Loud engines or cars. Many different projected negative energy when I’m in public. Also I feel as if my presence or consciousness is lost at times because I want to sleep a a lot. Anyways if someone can offer any guidance such as the right diet? If eating darker meats have any affect? I’ve also read that your not suppose to consume meats. Lastly, I do practice tai chi and I’ll physically hear sounds or popping noises in my brain and I’m wondering if it has anything to do with interferences or if your not suppose to use the 2 together? Can anyone off any guidance?

    #133589

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    no..they are the same thing..if you believe(maya) one is gater then the other its like believing in god and the satan as two gods.

    #133590

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    Could it be that Chi and Kundalini are the same word, Chi being the Chinese term for the Indian term Kundalini, both also the term used in the western hemisphere as our Vital Life Force?

    #133591

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    As said by Kundalini custom, there are seven distinctive kundalini chakras (energy center) situated along the spine as well as in the brain. The central energy center is not single symbolic ideas they are in fact certain energy drive within our body. Let’s have a look at these 7 Kundalini Chakras.

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