Module 15: Water Palm Change

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    Video Lesson 1: Introduction to the Water Palm has just blown me away.

    Occasionally I show a few minutes of Bruce to my advanced players.
    They all say, “blah, blah, blah. All he does is talk. How much did you pay for this one?”

    Well,
    The Lesson 1 Intro is why.

    I started studying Bagua in 2010.
    Got Bruce’s Master Course.
    A couple of years later I got to Module 10, Water Single Palm Change.
    I basically skipped right over it.
    Now for the last couple years I’ve been practicing with a Bagua master (a student of R W Smith).

    After watching Bruce’s videos on the Thunder Palm Change and the Fire Palm Change
    I returned to Module 10, the written instructions in the BMP notebook.
    After practicing the Water Palm Change for 2 months I seemed to be catching on.

    Or so I thought.
    But today Bruce put out his videos on the Water Palm Change.
    Wow!!!!
    So this is what it is all about.
    Qi running out and in through the whole arms from one side of the body to the other until it’s all the same.
    None of this is apparent in any other format.

    I think that this is what James has been trying to explain.

    #136012

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    Yup. :)

    Even more important, I’m starting to understand the learning progression that Bruce refers to in that video. I believe that I’ve finally grasped a bunch of the deeper mechanisms that make spiraling energy body work. I’m in the process of going back to some basics to learn them more correctly. For example, I’ve spent the last month working through 3 part walking to open everything up and unify spiraling at a much deeper level.

    I’ll share some of these insights once I start to stabilize. Right now things are still changing too fast.

    #136013

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    nice nuggets in your comments here- I haven’t made it to Module 15 yet myself, but even in the first section, I have found quite a bit packed (salted?) into sections as quick comments (these coming mostly from live-trainings, vs staged-scripted.. as at live-events it was clear Bruce has a few different layers of instruction going on simul, so always more to mine-for.. as can catch-more as prepared-to.. -how much did I miss? – so to have on a recording, and replay-review avail ?:)
    let alone in the pdfs– just in the 12 steps for spherical-awareness (epostures), and even the first three or four meditation pdfs- have meditation info as a book in itsself (not all unpacked and spelled out, at times a sentence covers something, and then the next sentence, or paragraph, moves on/upon it).. Truly something here, and easy to not be able to recognize (and I keep reminding myself- the effort needed to pull-stretch out and work with the concepts, and feel them.. before I lose connection with any seen).

    — above writing in weird tone- started lighter, so I didn’t want to end sounding preachy-rambling…

    -the video ( I forget which module, but early) about refinements of single palm change- speaks about either arm twist-in absorb and/or twist-out project.. can do any of four-alts (which are the 4 building blocks in TCM), and develop the awareness of what we are sending and what we are receiving (either send-push, or send as pulled-from us.. and receive-we pull, or receiving what is sent or pushed at us)).. which is a bigger issue in the higher Ebodies..
    (brief comment on the end of a teaching- but relates alot to other work I’ve done..)
    and just working on all the flows, in directly-concrete energetic exchange (material in Training Circle 2- Energetic influences)

    , as well as indirect in life-situation, where a sense of completeness&wholeness from having either a lack or a stuck pts (which is alot- “no gaps or protuberances” -make a ball, of TaiJiChuan)..
    ie socially feel you owe favors, or depend upon others vs self-relaince, vs feel others are not reciprocating to you, and a lack of your feeling you are “contributing”
    This, at a subconscious level affects us, and if you distinguish different areas, or ‘currents’ then the in&out (active or passive- intended and unintended, of each- and felt, either ride, and then boost or resist each.. via the neigung movements… then it isn’t philosophy, but a felt experience… and can just integrate, and react./adjust in the same way that one adjusts one’s alignment to gravity (straighten-stack these vertebrae, pelvis/knee tweak), at first intention, and then automatically hardly notice in regular life.. this can be felt and integrated in that same way..

    the filling and linking of circulations- same way (and how each “side” has a different flavor… so mixing the two.. just as R to L, and L to R, is different from R/L absorb/condense into Centre – vs R/L combine into the centre-line, or centre expand, vs centre split into R/L (relating to the same energy changing quality on each side, as well as how polarity-flavours layer when TaiJi , vs when TaiJi essence is LiangI dynamiced).


    again this post became longer- as the first part was to be as brief as the original post on this thread was– to respond like an echo… but thinking of it, brought to mind (and my energy starts to practice inside, even sitting here typing, and hands&feet start to become thick and liquidy-feeling and tingle-buzz a bit, and examples come to mind).. anyway, hope I didn’t lose anyone- just above relate to a few comments-sections in the program.. I’m glad he put in as many as he did, as many request the instruction be more, do this, do this… [and the main gold is buried around and through- I find]

    #136014

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    There’s a lot more going on than most people even imagine. At the Lake Palm Change event, I realized how complete it is supposed to be. I’ve been trying to convey some of this over the years and I still think Bruce is the only person who knows all of the material and is out there trying to teach it.

    Keep in mind that the verbal teaching is only a small fraction of what Bruce transmits when he teaches.

    Another important point is that you can’t really do the Water Palm Change until you have completed the Fire Palm Change. And the Fire Palm Change requires a level of mastery over all of the previous palm changes as well as the 16 part neigung system.

    So, for example, you can’t project chi and receive it the way Bruce describes in the Water Palm Change if you can’t access the bone marrow and project from it. In the Fire Palm, Bruce taught how to get to the bone marrow, but he didn’t teach how to come out and expand from it. He only hinted that this was a more advanced practice that was part of the Fire Palm and that you had zero chance of pulling it off if you hadn’t learned how to get to the bone marrow in the first place. I can think of three places he mentions this. Two were verbal and the third he just did while demoing the Fire Palm Change (you’ll see Bruce close one palm into a fist while the other opens up into the classic Bagua palm). In my opinion this is actually a Mountain energy combining with the Fire Palm, but that’s a whole other discussion. The point is I believe Bruce was emphasizing going in on the side that closes into a fist and projecting from the central channel on the side that is opening the palm.

    For beginners, remember this isn’t mystical – this is a large set of learned skills. Each piece is pretty simple, but in total there is an incredible amount of complexity. It is like a master magician doing slight of hand. Ultimately it is a learned motor skill that is done so well it looks like magic.

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