Perspective I’ve come to on the Cauldron, and the process (con vs subcon- stirring & settling)

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    Something I noticed a while back, as a result of cooking beans :) Note sure if this is the best place, but thought it might be of value to some. -relates to Gua#50 ‘ding’, the cauldron: fire-li over wind.. (as a reflection/reaction to the molting/skin-change of dui-lake over fire-li #49)…

    dry beans soaking in a pot- over heat, stir.. gives a different view than the Carl Jung “Making the subcon conscious… bringing to the surface from the depths.” — but rather, taking what is on the surface, and stirring/sinking it down into the depths..
    (the scooping up from the depths, as a way of “making room for” what lies upon the top to fall downward, placing what is “brought up- on top of.”)…

    the trick being, in this view, the process (the change-agent) not being so much its encounter upon the surface, brought to ‘light’.. but rather the gentle-sustained heat, in the depths.
    the heat, and the moisture in the deeper, insides, is redistributed.. .and the ‘dry beans’ (on the surface- outside), which are cooler, and dried.. are brought down, “folded-into” and thereby moistened, and into the heat.. (where they are changed by the thermal transfer.. “cooked” we might say.. over time “gung-fu”)….

    and this regular stirring, disperses any local differences, and unevenness.. and yet, rather than have a constant stirring (as may occur in dry roasting), it sets-up so that the heat may buildup, before stirring, which redistributes, but also releases the heat from the depths up and out the top. (the vapor-steam rising cloud.. as a mist, and scent).
    ………
    I hope that isn’t too repetitive, but just something that has come to mind each time as I have, espec as let it process for a while, practice a bit, return and stir and let it be a while, etc. (the view of setting up conditions (that deep heat, and the structure of the container itself), and that the process is what occurs- in the subcon? vs what is “intended”…

    i.e. “its not about ‘me’ and what I do.” (or rather what is the real-me? this surface-thinker? or that which is ‘telling this story” and is also creating this process– heat in the depths, sunk and gathered together.. (process for a purpose).

    #136009

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    Taokua,

    Nice use of the I-Ching.

    Confucius say this is the process of Establishing the New.

    Abolishing the Old and Establishing the New are opppsite,
    but complementary.

    Yet it is not merely stewing in your own juices,
    the superior person uses the process for the purpose of improving his/ her position.

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    Just to add a relation that I find interesting- in case any read this, or it might encourage/inspire those practicing… Bruce often references that the SPC itself is a core (built upon the Bagua-structure, which is walking/pulsing/twisting.. and walking along a circle, thus twist-circles in/along your form, arms/legs,etc… your vert-axis, and the circle itself)…

    and that is the SPC as a concept (as the Heaven SPC is one form, the most root, but is a layering of Heaven-structure&energy upon SPC, just as Water SPC is another version from that layering… ( -thus what is the SPC distinct from either of those? but that is just fruit to ripen, food for thought as they say, a question I’ve pondered/inquired, and refines/reveals a bit now and then)

    but Bruce has mentioned as one walks the circle, and/or sits, (each phy/Energetic&/or meditation-aspect fine-tuning) one “returns to the well” – of the SPC….

    Could this be an explict reference to “The Well” (Jing, different character than the other NeiJing.. but “inside/into the well” has an interesting meaning-sense).. #48, Kan-water upon/within the foundation/expression of Wind… (the turbulent waters, empowered-by/expressions-of the winds of change…. -the sea of chaos..? the winds, swirl in an area, they may surge and blow along a long-path, but often they gust and “dust-devil”/whirl-wind, thus twist-spin around a pt.. a circle, and that rotating and/or back and forrth…. churning, results in the surging chop of the deep-water storm-waves.

    [which is the counterpt, and thus informed by compare-contrast, with #47, Kun “oppresion/exhaustion” (nearly complete, but still within the cycle, within/caught up in the process), which is Joyous-Lake upon-within the foundation/expression of Kan (the churning sea of chaos, referenced above)- in this case the peaceful, or perhaps vibration-charged waters are from the churning waters (vs the churning waters being from wind)..] a very different foundation (and sense of solidity, the wet more ‘solid’ vs the moving-empty ‘winds’….

    each have little vortex-wave-tendrils from the whole structure.. [the strange-attractor being manifested, so to speak, to use a non-linear-dynamics term, which gives a different view of Carl Jung’s Platonic cores as non-somethings expressing in a concrete way as somethings.]

    Above only written as I hungered for so long how the Martial art of BaguaZhang (or any aspect of BaguaZhang neigung) as it is taught- how it relates to the Iching (directly, vs general terms), so just some directions in case any others of like mind.. above just points in a few directions (like that finger pointing at moon metaphor, and teacup filling “my cup runneth over…” -cheers

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