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    Anyone is welcome to comment on this post but it is a question that I suspect only Bruce can answer.

    I recently had an unusual experience while practicing Bagua. I was working on expanding the etheric body past the skin. Since I haven’t been able to do this, I typically alternate with practicing the Wind palm change because I feel the chi swirling around when I practice it, but I still struggle to expand from the central channel beyond the skin. I notice that there is this resistance in the mind to going out because I think I’m my body. So, I just try tried to relax and know that my consciousness is actually already outside my body.

    Something happened as I practiced. I noticed that my awareness expanded, not slowly, it just instantly had a different point of view as though my physical and chi bodies were deep within my “new” body. My consciousness had jumped and my perspective was now from the emotional body not the physical body. My mind had expanded way, way out.

    I talked about an sudden expansion that happened about a year ago. It had scared the crap out of me at the time. This was very different. It didn’t scare me in the least. I think this was because I was working with the central channel really well. It gives you a stability or reference that is important to have. I think this is the going in that balances going out.

    I had always thought that I would have to work out from the central channel further and further, body by body just like expanding the central channel to develop the etheric body. This is slow and tedious. But now I’m not so sure and I don’t think we have any guidance in the BMP.

    I know I used to think that jumping from one energy level to another was like electrons jumping quantum, but now I think it is much more than that. It also make sense that they are called bodies and not fields or energies. The energy bodies are our bodies. They are all there already. They just aren’t conscious. That’s why the jump is instantaneous – you are already there. You just don’t realize it.

    My question is this: Does our consciousness need to jump for each body or does it jump only for the yang trigrams (1,3,5,7) and expand for the yin trigrams (2,4,6,8)?

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    my experience with subtle bodies comes largely from yoga and with non-EA Taoist practices, but in my experience each subtle body extends beyond the previous one, though all “start” in the middle of the physical body. If I focus on it I can feel multiple subtle bodies simultaneously. I would day that the typical “radius” of my emotional body is 2-4 ft. It is also additionally “dense” beyond what your typical person’s seems to be.

    I am unable to ascertain the difference in meaning between the words “jump” and “expand”, and would simply say that awareness becomes more “subtle” as one proceeds into subtler subtle bodies. Expand, jump, release, decontract, subtlize, those words seem about the same in meaning to me.

    I absolutely concur that they are “bodies”, though I dont see that as so much different from a field or energy collection as long as one realizes that said field connects to, or is the expression of, your consciousness or awareness. Said field is a part of you, its your “vehicle of expression” on that level of consciousness is how we talk about it in some other circles. Said bodies already pre-exist before people become consciously aware of them. Their functioning generally becomes upgraded, significantly so, once one is aware of them and can directly operate with or through them.

    Not sure if any of that helped at all. That circle walking “draws in” chi from the environment is very obvious. That is “smooths over” fluctuations in the chi, emotional, and mental bodies is very obvious as well. I have no experience with the central channel, and my experiences are usually mediated via chakras and by major energy gates[laogung, yongquan, bai hui]. I have no experience relating trigrams to subtle bodies. Bagua does seem to intensify my sensitivity to feng shui however.

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    Thanks for the reply. Words are always difficult and imperfect especially when describing internal experiences.

    I used the word jump to contrast with the idea of a felt, progressive expansion like Bruce describes in module 8. I think you understood what I meant particularly when you said “…as long as one realizes that said field connects to, or is the expression of, your consciousness or awareness.” This was an instantaneous change in my consciousness where I shifted from identifying with the physical body to identifying with the emotional body.

    My question is really about how to open up the higher bodies. If I understand what Bruce is teaching in the BMP, we condense our consciousness into the central channel in the Heaven palm. This wakes up the heart-mind and gives you extraordinary access to the physical body.

    Next, to develop the etheric body, we expand the central channel in stages until it reaches the edge of the etheric body. The procedures are detailed throughout the BMP.

    There is less about the emotional body.

    What I experienced was like the physical and etheric bodies were concentrated deep within the emotional body. My point of view was as though the emotional body was way out (let’s just say thousands of miles out since there really isn’t a reference) and the etheric was only 6ft wide in the center.

    If you think of this as a yang, yin, yang pattern. We would pressurize the etheric to open up the emotional body and once that is fully opened, expand the central channel again until it fills beyond the edge of the emotional body to open the mental body.

    So, trigrams 1,3,5, and 7 are a concentration of the central channel like the body is a yang line and trigrams 2,4,6,8 are yin expansions.

    It is also possible that there are short cuts that make the whole thing easier by accessing the bodies fully just by tuning to the energy frequencies inside the physical body since all of the 8 bodies occupy this space or through special gates.

    I’m sure some people are reading this and thinking this guy is nuts. I would think so too if I hadn’t experienced the emotional body as I’ve described.

    The real problem is I’ll never know unless someone who really knows tells me how to do it or shares it with me. I think there are only a few people on the whole planet who knows and Bruce is one of them.

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