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February 20, 2012 at 5:00 pm #128469
AnonymousGuestOkay, I have a question. When you are letting your breath penetrate an organ such as your liver, how does this feel to you? Does the breath go from the periphery to the center of the organ, and back out again? Is it just a change in the feeling of density? And if it’s a center to periphery deal, does the breath go to the center of the organ on the inhale, and to the periphery on the exhale? That seems most obvious and logical, but with regular (non-reverse) breathing, the body expands out on the inbreath, and in on the outbreath, so if you follow the physical movement of the body, the breath could go to the center of the organ on the exhale, and out to the periphery on the inhale. Have I just confused everyone??
February 22, 2012 at 9:27 pm #132102
AnonymousGuest……..Hi Catherine, I can only share what I feel when I settle my ‘intent’ on breathing into my organs, and my awareness on what my nerves sense. The liver seems easier to feel than spleen or kidneys – probably because it’s big – and the sensation is definitely that of ‘inflating’ the organ with inhalation and deflating on exhalation, but it’s not obvious where the source of the inflation is, rather as my abdomen inflates on the inhalation so simultaneously do the residing organs.Not sure whether that helps.
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Colin
February 23, 2012 at 6:45 pm #132103
AnonymousGuestI think all shared experiences of this are helpful. Thanks, Colin!
February 24, 2012 at 2:09 am #132104
AnonymousGuestHi, Catherine.
For me, the whole area of the organ expands on the inhale and contracts on the exhale. I get the feeling that the area is a little like a sponge filling with air. When I do it in a balanced, even way, it feels like the organ expands in a uniform way. I first worked on this with the Taoist Breathing CDs and used the central channel expansion and contraction as a way to understand how the organs should expand on the inhale and contract on the exhale. There is a feeling that the density changes as it fills with air. As I’ve been doing the meditation circle, I’ve been getting sensations of the emotional energy of the organs much more clearly and strongly. As I’ve written in other posts, this was nothing like I imagined.
Hope this is helpful.
Best wishes,
MatthewFebruary 24, 2012 at 2:20 pm #132105
AnonymousGuestHi Catherine,
For me it seems to “coat” the organ on the first couple breaths and slowly penetrate (periphery to the center). With the liver I feel different areas that can be felt/penetrated at different depths some not very much at all. I do sometimes try to feel as if the organ itself is doing the breathing and when i do this its a center to periphery feeling. This method seemed more effective for me when doing the balancing of the liver/spleen we’ve been doing.February 25, 2012 at 11:28 pm #132106
AnonymousGuestThanks, Matthew and Steve. That was very helpful. So just one more question – does that mean you feel the periphery to center on the inhale? And center to periphery on the exhale? Or the other way around…Just want to make sure I’m pointed in the right direction!
February 26, 2012 at 1:12 pm #132107
AnonymousGuestI suppose it is my need to visual things but I also feel/see a light energy move in and out of the organs with the breath. It seems to penetrate the entire organ and also fill the space around it.
February 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm #132108
AnonymousGuest….. can it not be equally either one or the other, and even both at the same time? When I focus on trying to determine which, my initial sense is that of centre to periphery on the inhalation, although I’ve just tried periphery to centre inhaling and that seems to work too. I found Matthew’s sponge analogy matches most closely my experience. From memory, when inhaling from the ethnic field the focus is periphery to centre – and when inhaling from the central channel it’s centre to periphery. Are we simply experiencing variations in the yin and yang of organ breathing.
February 26, 2012 at 1:34 pm #132109
AnonymousGuest….oops just spotted my iPad prefers ethnic over etheric!
February 26, 2012 at 10:42 pm #132110
AnonymousGuestYeah, I guess I was starting to get the feeling that it could be either way. So everyone’s experiences have been very helpful. I guess it makes sense to just go back to looking for whatever sensation happens to be there, and not worry so much about direction. I guess I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t missing something obvious!
February 28, 2012 at 12:44 am #132111
AnonymousGuestIn some of the Bagua mastery materials, Bruce talks about center to periphery breathing and states that it can be done either way – the inhale causing the breath to move from the center of the body to the extremities or the exhale moving the breath from the center to periphery. For me, using the inhale breath to fill things, thereby moving from center to p. on the inhale is the most intuitive.
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