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    I’ve practiced mainly Tibetan Dzogchen these past 12 years and have no experience with breathing exercises such as are on the longevity CDs. How do I use these breathing methods? Do I, for ex, learn the first one and try to practice it throughout the day? Or do I simply sit and do them and then when the session ends, forget about them? Do we add them one at a time to our Tai Chi and Hsing I and Bagua? I’m surprised not to have heard an answer to my question from the start so I could get the maximum benefit from the Longevity Breathing CDs. Any help appreciated.

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    Hi James,

    I think that if you would cocentrate on your breathing whole day long, you would force your breathing. I personally do the breathing exercises after rising in the morning and before going to bed. Thoughout the day I tend to become aware of my breathing when I sit behind my desk, or stand in line waiting somewhere, so usually when I am not physically active. In those moments I try to leave the breathing alone and just watch it, being aware of it. I do concentrate iin those moments on my dan tien, which draws the breath down without me forcing it.
    I would suggest to take it easy, don’t force anything and let it evolve naturally outside of your training sessions. One day you will find that your are whole body breathing whole day long without you even thinking about it.

    Jan

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    While doing the 2nd cd “Feeling the Breath” practice (which may be a different cd set than what was introduced earlier in the circle) I found a strange discovery of breath in myself I felt like sharing.
    My breath feels like what they say happens to things at ground-zero of an atomic-blast/bomb; everything just vaporizes…to me what we commonly associate with breath is the residue left behind from that which is vaporized by the breath. The misty or cloudy or windy quality of the breath is just what it is cleaning out, whereas whatever breath really and truly is is completely nonphysical.

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    Jan, thanks for sharing this deep wisdom regarding breathing practices. I’m a total beginner in all of this, and this kind of understanding provides great signposts for the journey.

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    Also, my mom suffers from diagnosed Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, extreme-pain and migraines. I feel she might benefit greatly from this particular energy arts training circle, but her Catholicism sometimes makes it difficult for her to reconcile how she feels about energy/qi. She’s aware of it but has difficulty, I feel, with regards to Catholic-catechism.
    Bruce is always injecting his own Greek-Orthodox experience and I’m wondering how to interest her in it without making it seem like I’m trying to undermine, weaken her faith or for that matter convert her to Taoism!?

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    Hey Cody,

    A lot of times when these arts are taught, chi isn’t really mentioned for the first couple of years. Instead, you just focus on the body. Where you put your arms and legs, relax the shoulders, hollow the chest, relax your hands and feet, etc. You could probably teach a great deal without ever needing to mention chi.

    Hope this helps,
    Janak

    #134141

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    Very helpful; though, meant to post that in questions for Bruce. (doh!)
    But still, this works. Though as I said, my dad was a little thrown by the qigong video that discusses energy of the forearms penetrating the brain. He’s hesitant about investing in the whole course, but, as he got the overview of the moves, I wouldn’t mind “coaching” him and interpreting how it progresses and what I learn; filling in the blanks for him in a language he understands. Really hope he sticks with it, could do him a world a good. Also hope my mom gives it a shot, could really give her some good too; but she is extremely-aware and wary of this kind of helpful approach, she tends to view it as not-above-board or coercive.
    Maybe I chucked’em in the deep end, but they’re very concerned about getting the bottom-line and, as I said, view this approach as suspicious. I try my best to interpret and guinea-pig it for them, it still gets to be slow going and stand-offish. I don’t know, I’m still interested in seeing what Bruce might have to say about how any of this dilutes the mind-to-mind transmission or energetic-transmission.
    But, I didn’t know this about the practices, though it makes since since I’ve always understood the Chinese/Taoists to be all about this type of teaching-style. Good to know.

    Thanks Janak
    Cody

    ps my sister could sure use this qigong set too; don’t even know how to broach that with her.

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