This program helps bulging disc in lower back? Help me understand moving fascia exercise in level 1

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    Hi,
    My skill level is beginning. I completed level 1 video and exercise of this program.
    I am clueless about moving the fascia” (exercise: use shoulder blade, rotate the shoulder circular motion. move the fascia from the back of the head to top of the head and down the face, throat. And the reverse direction).

    * What I can do: contrast or relax the fascia of the back or the chest.

    a) Could you expand on what the master mean by the term “move”? fascia is like a plastic wrap around the body? move mean just contrast squeeze it?
    b) How do I know I am on the right direction?
    c) Also from move it from the back of the head to top of head and then down to the face and throat. It seems there is no controlling muscle or tendent there, I can’t command it to squeeze and release. How does one do this?

    Your input is appreciated.
    /Philip

    #136469

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    Hi Philip
    To the best of my understanding, dealing with the fascia doesn’t get going until level 2. Don’t stress that you don’t get it or feel you aren’t moving in the right direction.
    Take your time with the material, keeping within your 70% and I think your questions will be answered.
    Cody

    #136470

    Anonymous
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    keep following the lesson and slowly you will understand Bruce’s instruction. Level 1 is like learning the a b c and you spend some time on it to let the instruction sink into you both in making sense out of it and also that the body may be ready and prime for the next level.
    We have no idea of fascia and so we just work on it base on Bruce’s instruction. We can see the youtube video to get a better idea. How to handle the fascia? This is what the course is trying to teach.
    If we imagine fascia to be like a muscle, it is more difficult to make sense of the course instruction. The fascia is actually more like nerves and is more sensitive too. The upper body fascia is mostly linked to the shoulder and the lower body {legs} fascia are mostly linked to the buttock. consider the shoulder and buttock to be the centre for the fascias just like the spline is the centre for the nerves that go all over the body. Bruce will keep talking about grasping the shoulder and grasping the buttock which is his way of putting our mind on those areas. The nerve from the shoulder to the head or hand is one circuit and it doesn’t matter where is the beginning and where is the end. We can activate it by stretching in or out starting from any end or from anywhere. the mind doesn’t have to command the nerve or fascia. what the mind wants to do, the nerve and fascia automatically follow.
    I don’t know my explanation makes sense or not. It is just some ideas to satisfy the questioning mind. Maybe it might be better to just follow the instruction and don’t think too much.

    #136471

    Anonymous
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    When Bruce says moves the fascia up to the top of the head, he mostly means to stretch internally all the way to the top of the head. Moving in the sense of stretching or opening.
    I think to keep the instruction simple or clear Bruce only mention about moving fascia, but he pointed out that whenever fascia moves the underlying qi is activated or moves. It is the qi that moves the fascia.
    I think sometimes when he says move/stretch as in explanation for the yin/yang movement he is mostly talking about qi movement. This course is about fascia and head, back and shoulder pain and so it is good to concentrate on the physical and more immediate feature of the system. To move and stretch the fascia alone is as good without talking about qi movement.

    #136472

    Anonymous
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    Thank you Daniel and Cody. It helped me feel a little bit better and less lost. I started to feel some tingling sometimes.
    Hope I improve more soon. Will continue to monitor the forum for more info.
    /Philip

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    Hi Philip, one of the challenges of this kind of work is the need for patience, and an acceptance that sensitivity to subtle sensation emerges with a certain kind of relaxed diligence that requires practice. Some folk can immediately feel quite subtle sensations whilst others are relatively numb. I would argue that those who feel/sense the least, have the most to benefit from maintaining a relaxed diligence without trying to force anything or chasing expectations. A profound appreciation of the value of this work will eventually emerge and you will likely be delighted at your progress albeit slow – you will have developed a way of working that ensures a quiet quality of diligence that ensures real progression. I find the idea of working softly helps tremendously with feeling less obvious and deeper movement and flow.

    #136474

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    Here’s how i first felt movement, but it comes from doing other exercises like hsing-i and qi-gong. Tingle/cold/hot/funny buzz was to me an indication that you are now sensitive to energy flow. That could be flowing in your nerves, on your skin, though. When i held my hand in the standard wrapped hsing-i posture and focused on it thats when i felt the effect of qi on connective tissue. Your joints move / expand – and you can feel this. I think your hand is a good place to first get this because it’s so sensitive. After this i felt creaks – like a rusty joint – for areas that had scar tissue. Eventually it felt like a slipping / expanding for healthy tissue. I think one term to describe this is “opening” – your connective tissue “grows”/”opens”. In contrast “closing” would “shrink” the tissue.

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