Total Exertion of a Single Thing

Home Forums Archive Bagua Mastery Program Total Exertion of a Single Thing

  • This topic is empty.
Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #129986

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Bob, I wanted to break this out into its own thread. One day I’ll figure out what you’ve been trying to tell me. :)

    So, I can easily see my practice as an interplay of yin and yang. And it is always in flux. But, I never go to the extremes. The space between isn’t the vacuum between. It is more about the middle of two extremes. It is both yin and yang as well as neither yin nor yang. I guess I’ve found the tai chi space which might be exactly what the Zen monk Dogen is trying to describe.

    I don’t think this is emptiness.

    That said, my practice doesn’t worry about the inside and the outside, what is internal to the body or external . As Bruce asks in his video lesson, Is there really a difference? I’ve been practicing this way: without any concern about inside or outside. I pay attention to the flux and just focus on working with it. Since everything is experienced inside our central nervous system, it is all inside. Perhaps this is one meaning of “the kingdom of heaven is inside you.”

    I’m not sure. I’m just continue to practice and to use the trick of the CNS to produce extraordinary relaxation throughout the entire body. I’ll see where it takes me.

    #136750

    Anonymous
    Guest

    emptiness
    is an existential paradox

    It must be discovered and experienced personally

    Lineages are important:
    Tung Hai Chuan>Liu Hung Chieh>Bruce>James

    Chang San Feng>Yang Lu Chan>Cheng Man-Ching>Sam Masich>sana shanti

    Buddha>Bodhidharma>Dogen>Homeless Kodo> Uchiyama>Okumura

    Mary>John the Baptist>Jesus>Paul

    blood>blood vessels>muscle>tendons

    they lead to realizing “emptiness”

    once you realize “emptiness” personally it becomes your Rosetta Stone for understanding your path

    Gautama Buddha raises a flower; Manjushri smiles = Rosetta Stone>emptiness

    “emptiness” is impermanent,
    nothing has an independent existence,
    each thing or non-thing rises and perishes instantly

    While meditating this summer I found my Rosetta Stone:
    I realized “my existence before I was born.”

    Some use a Koan (Has a Dog Buddha-nature or not?)

    Some might find their Rosetta Stone in the crossing doing the Lake Palm Change.

    Some might find it in “peng”

    The Apostle Paul (who probably never had a personal meeting with Jesus before the Crucifixion) found it on the road to Damascus in Light.

    Shazam!
    seeing, but blind

    From the existential paradox rises understanding that
    Non-existence and existence co-exist
    yin and yang co-exist
    tendon and muscle co-exist
    (before I was born=my non-existence,
    my presence now=existence)

    Even if this appears to be a mistake, we are still living in this existential paradox–
    moment by moment living time
    (Dogen, “Shobogenzo” 1235-1245, “Uji” Chapter in 1240)

    So,
    Tendon stores energy,
    the spring-nature of the tendon is “totally exerted.”

    Daoyin:

    “yin”
    inhalation
    internal
    leading (one translation of the Chinese term “yin”)
    blood vessels constrict
    totally exerting and focusing on mental/internal Yang, engaging the mind;
    the more you work the yang,
    the more your yin grows by non-effort
    tendons store energy
    “Lion Holding the Ball” (Bruce’s Posture 9: most appropriately learned by intermediate practitioners)
    shen/spirit, pure total exertion of yang,
    yin is hidden, individualness is erased
    you and your surroundings are one,
    experienceing the Dao

    “Dao”
    exhalation
    external
    guiding (one translation of the Chinese term “Dao”)
    totally exerting and focusing on the tangible, external Yin
    the more you work the yin,
    the more your yang grows by non-effort
    tendons release energy
    jing/blood,
    “Lion Opens the Mouth” (Yin Bagua, see Andrew Nugent-Head–Yin is a family name, not yin)
    yang is hidden, maximimizing your potential as a human at one with your surroundings
    you are in harmony with the Dao

    “the total exertion of a single thing”
    yin or yang
    existence or non-existence

    thus, the impermance of the moment is realized

    this is No-Buddha-nature-Buddha-nature

    IMO

    #136751

    Anonymous
    Guest

    So, I think I finally intellectually get where this goes. Although, intellectual understanding is not what we are seeking.

    jing phase – master the blood.
    Chi phase – master the CSF
    shen phase – master the central channel and central chi
    wu
    Tao

    I’m practicing and working with the central chi. All of my training to date was to integrate the whole body. All I experience is the movement of that central chi. I stop worrying about whether it is inside or outside. I’m concerned with the total exertion of it – the total exertion of a single thing. The truth is a may have been able to do this with any one thing for example breath. The key is that whatever that one thing is – it has to become my world, my existence.

    If I can take it to the extreme, it will naturally and inevitably flip to its opposite: non-existence or emptiness.

    So, I’d define the shen phase’s goal as the total exertion of the central chi. If I’m successful, I’ll should start to experience or get glimpses of emptiness. The key is you can’t seek emptiness. That’s impossible. Instead you have to commit to the total exertion of a single thing.

    The approach that Bagua uses is particularly suited because the shen phase dumps relaxation into the muscles which reduces and helps eliminate the anxiety of the mind. Basically, your mind shuts the f’ up and enables you to be aware of the central chi without thinking and creating more and more yin and yang.

    #136752

    Anonymous
    Guest

    I like how you have weaved “total exertion” into your view.

    Caution: I don’t fully “understand” or feel this principle.
    Neither am I good at articulating it.

    For example:
    I keep changing how I apply inhalation and exhalation.
    I just switched inhalation to apply to the “Dao” in Daoyin.
    Intellectually it is a simple switch.
    But it sure rattles my CNS.

    The power of “the total exertion of a single thing” is that this present, and ever-changing moment-by-moment is not influenced by anything outside.

    Anything and everything springs out of it.

    Yes,
    you can’t seek emptiness,
    but what springs forth is sure pretty.

    #136753

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi Bob,

    I’m back on the total exertion of a single thing. Now that I’ve figured out how Hsing-I is organized and how Tai Chi uses the physical manifestation of the tai chi space, I’m back working on understanding Bagua and the wu ji.

    My current take is a little odd. I keep thinking about Bruce’s description. He said something like “the one thing that can be said about emptiness is that it has no discernible quality.” His words are exacting.

    My point is that that’s it: what can’t we sense? We can feel and taste and touch and smell and see. When you add the psychic crap, the stuff that is normally only part of our unconscious or more simply put involuntary, you have the sum total of everything we can experience. Then add consciousness. We are aware. That’s about it.

    Emptiness is everything else.

    Bagua seeks to contain and use that which we have no ability to sense, wu ji. It is senseless. :)

    #136754

    Anonymous
    Guest

    Hi Jim,

    “total exertion of a single thing” is the fundamental principle of a Japanese Buddhist monk, circa 1200-1253.
    Nobody really understands it.
    I certainly don’t.
    But I like it.

    In a single word: nondualism
    Dualist traps are everywhere.

    “emptiness” means that nothing is independent.
    No absolutes behind anything.
    Everything is dependent on something else.
    Even “emptiness” is dependent on everything else.

    Teacher 1: Can you grasp emptiness?
    Teacher 2: Yes, I think I can.

    Teacher 1: How would you grasp emptiness?
    Teacher 2: (using his hand he grasps at empty space)

    Teacher 1: You don’t know how to hold emptiness
    Teacher 2: How do you grasp it, then?

    Teacher 1: Teacher 1 seizes Teacher 2’s nose and pulls it
    Teacher 2: Ouch! Ouch! You are going to pull off my nose!

    Teacher 1: You can grasp emptiness only in this way.

    emptiness grasps emptiness

    Bruce’s emptiness “has no discernible quality” is DUALISTIC
    One the one hand, everything else has discernible quality.
    One the other hand, emptiness has no discernible quality.
    This is Bruce’s illusion.

    That there is “Emptiness” and there “is everything else” is DUALISTIC
    This is an illusion.

    I am deluded, too.
    (Stephen Hawkins was often wrong, too.)
    Ouch!

    When “emptiness” is totally exerted,
    there is emptiness only;

    when form is totally exerted,
    there is form only.

    Fortunately, even illusion, psychic crap, Qi, black holes and mistakes are part of the total exertion of a single thing,
    if we live duality in the manner of “the total exertion of a single thing” rather than trying to take flight from duality.

    The Wind Palm Change moves the hands and arms seeking to contain and embrace wuji at the lower dantien, using it to pull the opponent’s nose off–
    it is senseless.

    but it might save your bacon

    cheers,

    bob

Viewing 6 posts - 1 through 6 (of 6 total)

This is an archived forum (read only). Go to our active forum where you can post and discuss in real time.

Pin It on Pinterest