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February 25, 2012 at 9:57 pm #128479
AnonymousGuestHi
I’m involved in Ninjutsu training and some MMA and I’m looking for something to GREATLY enhance my Chi internal power for martial arts application and health purposes.
I want to cultivate my chi and be able amongst others, to break a brick,quench a candle,hit an opponent harder and faster etc.
I want my main art to be Ninjutsu and find a way to cultivate to the greatest my Chi, without compromising my main arts way of thinking etc.Is Hsing-I for me?
How much time should I devote daily?
Can i practice Hsing-i alone without having a partner?My main concern is if I can learn this art from the dvds and without a partner since I wont have an instructor to attend to.
February 26, 2012 at 2:48 am #132159
AnonymousGuestThe core training initially will be the San Ti posture which is pictured here http://www.energyarts.com/hsing-i-chuan.
Traditionally in some schools they would get students to do nothing other than that for a few years until their internal power was sufficiently developed.
It’s really difficult in the beginning to do it more than 5 minutes or so. You would want to increase that over time as the longer you hold the posture the more you’ll unlock certain things. I think the best way to approach it is just do a bit every day to develop the habit, rather than trying to do one big session once a week or something.
I have Bruce’s Hsing-i DVDs and it’s pretty much all stuff you do alone without a partner. It surely helps to have a teacher, but you can pick up quite a lot of the subtle points of San Ti from the DVDs.
I’d say give it a go for sure. It really does get your chi going quite well.
February 27, 2012 at 8:01 am #132160
AnonymousGuestHi Cameron,
I read this article : http://www.energyarts.com/qigong-and-martial-arts-training by Bruce and I’m more confused now.
It says about 2 ways for developing chi. Which is best for me and what product should I use?
Is there a product for doing neigong?As i said my goal is to develop my internal power as fast and as effective as possible first and foremost for combat (ninjutsu) purposes and for health.
What do you recommend I should do to achieve this?
Thanks
February 28, 2012 at 4:48 am #132161
AnonymousGuestYeah so the 2 methods are to develop the power, then to use the power in martial arts. Static postures are one way to develop that power.
Qigong is sort of the blanket term for any kind of static posture. The San Ti posture that I mentioned is pretttty much a qigong posture since you’re standing still most of the time. I think technically it’s a neigong posture though, but almost everyone in the west just says qigong for anything static.
Static postures are probably the best way to develop internal power that I have come across. The San Ti posture from Hsing-I is more difficult than a lot of the qigong postures that you would typically see, but it is better. If you want something easy and decent then do some sort of I-Chuan (Yiquan) posture. If you’re after something a bit harder that will yield better results, then do San Ti. The Hsing-I DVDs include both of these.
I would recommend starting with the basic qigong posture where your feet are shoulder width apart and hands are by your side. Have that as the main part of your training while incorporating more and more San Ti as you’re able to do it for longer. Initially San Ti is pretty hard. Doing a basic posture is great for getting a feel of what’s going on inside.
February 28, 2012 at 3:13 pm #132162
AnonymousGuestHi George,
I second Cameron’s advice. Adding standing practice to your other training will completely shift what it feels like to do the moving practice.
San Ti really cranks things up, and so it’s nice to actually have a moving “outlet” to express all the chi you build.
Enjoy!
DanFebruary 28, 2012 at 5:00 pm #132163
AnonymousGuestThanks for the input guys…I have ordered the DVDs
I guess Bruce provides step by step instructions on how to progress with the DVDs and how to practice for best results?
Also another question: what is exactly the eight piece brocade? And is it included in the DVD?
February 28, 2012 at 8:00 pm #132164
AnonymousGuestHi George,
Bruce always presents material in a step-by-step fashion, so you’ll be fine practicing the way he presents it. As with all his DVDs and books (and really live trainings for that matter — but that’s another topic), there’s tons of material packed in, so don’t be surprised if one little thing feeds you for a long time in your practice.
There’s an art in learning that way unto itself.
As far as 8 brocade, that’s a different, moving qigong set, distinct from the standing postures, although from what I can tell, it’s often taught along with them.
Good luck with your practice!
DanFebruary 29, 2012 at 10:22 am #132165
AnonymousGuestThanks for the help guys…I have found this site:
http://onlineschool.spiritdragoninstitute.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=416:learn-xing-yi-onlineCan you please have a look and tell me whether this can be a good complement to the use of the DVDs from Bruce?
Will the simultaneous use of the site and the DVDs enhance my training or I shouldn’t use the site?
Is the instructors of good quality and knowledgable?March 1, 2012 at 4:02 am #132166
AnonymousGuestI think if you’ve already ordered Bruce’s DVDs then that will be enough for quite some time. Just getting San Ti right will be more beneficial than learning a whole lot of other things half-heartedly.
The guy on the website looked ok at first glance. I can’t really comment on the subtle points because I don’t know them myself.
March 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm #132167
AnonymousGuesthi,
Yep you can generate chi power quicker than most interal arts through hsing yi (xing yi) but, quick is about 6-8 months.
To clear up a couple of points Qigong is energy work, wei dan or nei dan usually, stance work is Zhan-Zhuang or stake standing. So give it a go and enjoy your journey, as for applying energy release in a martial situation takes time to build….:o)March 4, 2012 at 6:49 pm #132168
AnonymousGuestGeorge,
You can’t learn Xingyi from a video. The internal components must be seen and felt from a competent instructor. Miss by an inch, miss by a mile.Buddy
March 4, 2012 at 8:38 pm #132169
AnonymousGuestI have started practicing longevity breathing but I have noticed that I cannot apply it while weight training since I need to exhale through the mouth for more power.
Also while doing my ninjutsu sessions or doing cardio the same applies,I find it hard near impossible especially to have the tongue on the roofIs this normal or not?Can I breath through mouth on weight training?
Will this improve?
What should I do?March 5, 2012 at 12:22 pm #132170
AnonymousGuestGeorge,
It’s the same way you get to Carnegie Hall…practice. For instance my tongue is at the roof of my mouth at almost all times. Of course, I have been doing this stuff a little while.
Regarding the breathing, don’t sweat it too much. You have to practice the component parts separately before putting everything together.
Bruce used to stress two things: Separate and combine, and center to periphery, periphery to center. These concepts will, in time, make everything a lot easier.Buddy
March 7, 2012 at 9:46 pm #132171
AnonymousGuestCameron are there specific instructions and exercises in the DVDs for developing my Chi internal power?
This is my main goal and I want to know that there are the tools in the DVDs to achieve thatMarch 8, 2012 at 3:00 am #132172
AnonymousGuestYeah the core of it revolves around the San Ti posture and all the little things that you need to take into account to get it right. As has been previously said it helps if you have an instructor, but doing it yourself is certainly possible to a certain degree (will just take longer).
Holding the San Ti posture is the tool for building internal power in Hsing-I.
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