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    Ok, I have this contention that in actual fact, any form of neigung or meditation are in reality olympian arts, designed to take a ‘normal’, or a quite well-functioning and well-adjusted human being, to some kind of super-human or extaordinarily high-acheiving state. This, if true, would, in a sense, exclude these arts from being described as ‘medicine’ in any way; just as the disclaimer states.

    Let me clarify. Take, for example, a case of disease caused by addiction of one kind or another. I assume that the majority of these addictions are caused by underlying anxieties, or emotional and spiritual ‘ice’, or profound disharmony of heaven and earth, or whatever.

    Now, in order to resolve the physical aspects of this disease, it is necessary to relax and perform outer dissolving. This will heal the physical condition, and is the necessary pre-requisite for meditation, which will address the underlying emotional causes.

    But surely the end presupposes the means. In outer dissolving, to relax the body, focus the mind and open the energy gates supposes the ability to relax and be undistracted. But surely this is simply not possible because of the deeper emotional condition, This deeper emotional root or underlying cause cannot be addressed until the basics of outer dissolving are accomplished. This is therefore an insoluble dilemma.  

    Some help would be very much appreciated

    #133392

    Anonymous
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    The secondary problem is this:

    If through the basic beginning practices of breathing, alignments, sinking, outer dissolving etc., the patterns and emotional blockages of the subconscious are brought toward, and eventually into, conscious awareness, then surely this will intensify the anxiety or emotional disturbance, leading to an exacerbation of the original problem?

    How can this difficulty be addressed?

    #133393

    Anonymous
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    It may be the case that in a lot of cases, some sort of assisted nei gung and meditation is required, such as chi gung tui na or guided meditation from an experienced teacher. Only after this can the root of the problem be addressed by personal practice. Is that a reasonable position?

    If this is the case, why are these not more emphasised in the Energyarts syllabus? I personally would be most interested in these aspects of the art, and I am pretty sure that this would be a more suitable starting point for the bulk of general Western populations…..

    #133394

    Anonymous
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    As you state (
    disclaimer) these arts are not intended to treat diseases like addiction. In terms of self application they are intended for generally healthy people. As a treatment vehicle they traditionally have been applied by Qigong doctors to patients but that is not a service we are currently offering. If you feel that these practices are exacerbating any underlying issue and/or illness please practice moderation (70 percent rule) or stop all together and seek a more appropriate treatment, there are numerous conventional addiction therapies available.

    Kind regards,
    Energy Arts Team 

    #133395

    Anonymous
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    Yes ok, I have been training for a while in addiction counselling, but thanks for assuming I was talking about myself, but anyhow…

    Are these more medical approaches going to be offered at your proposed retreat centre? That would be a very exciting prospect, and would certainly provide a very ready source of income for said retreat center (not addiction per se but applied medical Qigong in general), because, as has been established by this post, the “market” (not a term I would like to use) for self application is relatively small, and the “market” for a more medical qigong (leading quite probably to self-application) could, I reckon, be quite immense.

    Just a thought….

    #133396

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    As an after thought, I don’t really think that there are any particularly good alternative addiction therapies, hence the fascination with these energyarts, which I think could provide the missing link!…

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