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    I have been practicing martial arts for years and only sometimes do I notice this feeling of energy in my hands perhaps chi but in my mind more likely blood flow. I have done something similar to energy gates or the swings for years and have recently taken up dragon and tiger chigung and am now doing opening the energy gates verbatem. According to Bruces experience written in the book Tai Chi and Bagua he did not really feel it chi until after he left the hard styles and even Aikido. So I suppose I have much more work to do. Does it take at least a year or more to notice any change? I was wondering what others have experienced in this regard. Bruce also describes this as awakening the heart-mind as told in his meditation cds. I am doing this method as opposed to Zen meditation to see/feel a difference. Would welcome any input from Bruce or any student or instructor on this topic. Thanks very much.

    Jeff Bartholomew

    #130706

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    Zen meditation is OK (have been doing Dogen Zen, zazen shikantaza for 20 years), but it is designed to ignore any feeling of moving Qi.
    “When we ‘wake up’ during zazen we are truly to experience the fact that all the things we develop in our thoughts vanish in an instant.. Kosho Uchiyama. Dogen wrote, “the flying bird resembles a bird.”

    I’ve tried a bit of bagua–but I can’t get any meditation feelings out of it.
    nichts macht mit spiraling qigong, too.

    I’ve seriously practiced New Hun Yuan Golden Ruler drills and form for 3 years–it’s great to develop intention–but no Heart-Mind to speak of.

    I’ve been thinking about joining Bruce’s new Taoist meditation circle, but am unsure that it’s necessary to arouse the Heart-Mind.

    I recently have confirmed that there is such a thing as feeling Heart-Mind; just by doing taiji in nature (18 years of daily Yang style taiji practice) and experiencing Heart-Mind with a willow bush:

    yellow twig willow
    enduring winter flooding
    spirits connecting

    I should add that this feeling has coincided with the start of practicing Bruce’s Dragon and Tiger Medical Qigong–although I have not experienced any direct movement of Qi during such practice.

    #130707

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    Feeling moving chi in Zen or qigong is a later stage. Zen has the sudden movement of the small circulation having collected sufficient chi or ki in or around the navel area by sitting without special training te feeling ability of it.

    As you naturally feel and lose chi in meeting your lover this may be a first idea of this electro magnetic force and different ways to feel it as tingling, deep concentration or as a light or flash of such life force, Refraining from losing this force by intercourse for one year or so may fill the the body so much with it that you get the feeling and moves automatically not wasting it in hard martial arts to the outside and more outside layers of the body instead storing it inside.

    As feeling the chi is a body and mind action for remarking it it can be wilfully trained. As the hands are especially sensitive for such feeling te usual training is letting meet and separate the palms without touching before the body normally the navel,

    First without moving putting the attention between the palms which already may create collected chi there as a ball. Moving cautiously te hands afar and together may allow to feel the chi as a force connecting like files the palms together till the distance breaks the connection which should be avoided like overusing your attention which is limited in the beginning So bringing the palms again together may allow to feel how the energy gets denser again etc,
    Later the whole body is included in this movement when meridians and channels are unblocked and the hands are moved on heart llevel opening the heart mind full of open love and heart center,

    Axel

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    Feeling moving chi in Zen or qigong is a later stage. Zen has the sudden movement of the small circulation having collected sufficient chi or ki in or around the navel area by sitting without special training te feeling ability of it.

    As you naturally feel and lose chi in meeting your lover this may be a first idea of this electro magnetic force and different ways to feel it as tingling, deep concentration or as a light or flash of such life force, Refraining from losing this force by intercourse for one year or so may fill the the body so much with it that you get the feeling and moves automatically not wasting it in hard martial arts to the outside and more outside layers of the body instead storing it inside.

    As feeling the chi is a body and mind action for remarking it it can be wilfully trained. As the hands are especially sensitive for such feeling te usual training is letting meet and separate the palms without touching before the body normally the navel,

    First without moving putting the attention between the palms which already may create collected chi there as a ball. Moving cautiously te hands afar and together may allow to feel the chi as a force connecting like files the palms together till the distance breaks the connection which should be avoided like overusing your attention which is limited in the beginning So bringing the palms again together may allow to feel how the energy gets denser again etc,
    Later the whole body is included in this movement when meridians and channels are unblocked and the hands are moved on heart llevel opening the heart mind full of open love and heart center,

    Axel

    #130709

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    Feeling moving chi in Zen or qigong is a later stage. Zen has the sudden movement of the small circulation having collected sufficient chi or ki in or around the navel area by sitting without special training te feeling ability of it.

    As you naturally feel and lose chi in meeting your lover this may be a first idea of this electro magnetic force and different ways to feel it as tingling, deep concentration or as a light or flash of such life force, Refraining from losing this force by intercourse for one year or so may fill the the body so much with it that you get the feeling and moves automatically not wasting it in hard martial arts to the outside and more outside layers of the body instead storing it inside.

    As feeling the chi is a body and mind action for remarking it it can be wilfully trained. As the hands are especially sensitive for such feeling te usual training is letting meet and separate the palms without touching before the body normally the navel,

    First without moving putting the attention between the palms which already may create collected chi there as a ball. Moving cautiously te hands afar and together may allow to feel the chi as a force connecting like files the palms together till the distance breaks the connection which should be avoided like overusing your attention which is limited in the beginning So bringing the palms again together may allow to feel how the energy gets denser again etc,
    Later the whole body is included in this movement when meridians and channels are unblocked and the hands are moved on heart llevel opening the heart mind full of open love and heart center,

    Axel

    #130710

    Anonymous
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    Feeling moving chi in Zen or qigong is a later stage. Zen has the sudden movement of the small circulation having collected sufficient chi or ki in or around the navel area by sitting without special training te feeling ability of it.

    As you naturally feel and lose chi in meeting your lover this may be a first idea of this electro magnetic force and different ways to feel it as tingling, deep concentration or as a light or flash of such life force, Refraining from losing this force by intercourse for one year or so may fill the the body so much with it that you get the feeling and moves automatically not wasting it in hard martial arts to the outside and more outside layers of the body instead storing it inside.

    As feeling the chi is a body and mind action for remarking it it can be wilfully trained. As the hands are especially sensitive for such feeling te usual training is letting meet and separate the palms without touching before the body normally the navel,

    First without moving putting the attention between the palms which already may create collected chi there as a ball. Moving cautiously te hands afar and together may allow to feel the chi as a force connecting like files the palms together till the distance breaks the connection which should be avoided like overusing your attention which is limited in the beginning So bringing the palms again together may allow to feel how the energy gets denser again etc,
    Later the whole body is included in this movement when meridians and channels are unblocked and the hands are moved on heart llevel opening the heart mind full of open love and heart center,

    Axel

    #130711

    Anonymous
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    Chii is generally felt as one of the following
    Heat
    A tingling sensation similar to static electricity but smoother and freely flowing inside you.
    A pressure or almost corporeal feeling on your skin or the tips of your palms.
    Sensations and tingles running along the surface of your body, the feeling is very similar to when a sexual partner runs their fingers along you.
    Over time this gives way to being able to tangibly feel the as a much stronger corporeal thing within your and outside yourself.  This generally starts with feeling currents running inside/through your body (which often also correlates to feeling your internal fluids moving).

    The heat is generally felt from blood moving to an area.  Chi moves blood, blood moves chi.   If chi activates in an area you will feel heat from the blood moving there.  If you get to an advanced level, psychic energy can also feel like heat, but it’s a completely different sensation you will be able to differentiate from blood flow heat.

    The tingling in your body corresponds to the nerves activating.  Chi activates nerves, pretty simple.

    The tingling along your body is energy running through your meridian line channels.  This is very common in sexual experiences.

    The pressures and viscous feeling of a field around/just outside your body or in someone else’s are from contacting an etheric field.

    The entire chi development/awakening process is irregular and it’s difficult to predict exactly what will happen with it or the order in which you will experiences these.  If you do a solid nei gongi practice, you will progressively encounter these experiences more frequently until it becomes normal for you to always feel what I described and the intermittent sensations expand to the deeper flows.

    -alex

     

    #130712

    Anonymous
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    I think this is a good description. Just recently i’ve gotten a burning heat in my dantian during sitting meditation. Other than that, i wouldn’t begin to know how to describe the feeling of chi. When doing taiji or moving practice, the only way i can describe the feeling is to say that it seems like i’m sitting inside myself with my body all around me and as i get a notion for a movement my body seems to manifest that movement all on its own. Of course it’s very difficult to maintain and i’ve only began to be able to do this so it takes all i’ve got. But until i read about “heart mind” in the materials i was having trouble pinpointing from where the movements were coming from, i wanted to say mind but they weren’t really coming from thinking, and i wouldn’t have exactly said they were subconscious. So i’m glad i found these materials, they’ve provided a lot of explanation.
    Patrick

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