Visiting the Bai Yuan Guan – Taoist White Cloud Temple

by | Dec 7, 2011 | Taoist Meditation, Travels, Taoism | 17 comments

Over 25 years ago, from 1985-6, my Taoist master used to send me to White Cloud once or twice a week.  He gave me meditation practices, which I did at two spots here.  At the time I lived only a 15 minute walk away.

The Eight Immortals

Upon arriving at the temple with my family, we bought two small statues of Liu Dong Bin and Lao Tse for a future retreat center.  We looked around and saw a small temple of the 8 Immortals upon whom the martial art called 8 Drunken Immortals is named.  For those who don’t know, the eight immortals are He Xiangu (Immortal Woman), Cao Guojiu, Tieguai Li, Lan Caihe, Liu Dong Bin, Han Xiang Zi, Zhang Guo Lao, and Zhongli Quan.

Next to the temple of the 8 Immortals is the Liu Dong Bin temple.  Liu Dong Bin was the leader of the 8 Immortals.  It was his methods that I followed when studying to be a Taoist priest in the 1970s.  During the 1980s I used to come to the Liu Dong Bin temple to sit, practice, and leave, rarely talking to anyone, except on rare occasions.

Back then sat on a small bench inside the shrine room, but today there was no seat inside, only a new bench outside.  So I sat there and began to meditate.

Meeting with a Taoist Monk

After a while, an old Taoist monk sat next to me.  I felt him, opened my eyes and we began chatting.  We hit it off immediately.  He asked if I had been here before.  I told him a bit of my history and the conversation got lively.  My wife and son came over, and he took a shine to them. When she asked for a photograph we took a bunch.

It is highly unusual for an old Taoist pries to talk to people so freely, virtually unheard of in the 80s. The Monk was 69 years old.  As is common with traditional elders in China, he asked exactly what the difference was between the temple then and now. In China age is traditionally associated with wisdom.  I let him know my reflections of Beijing and the temple.

After a while of talking, he invited me over to a tree (“White Tree”) that he said was over a hundred years old.  We took a series of pictures with every combination of him and us next to this tree.  We promised to get him the pictures later after printing them out.  He really took a shine to my son and repeated over and over that he would live to be 100 years as well as his parents.

This is what most would call a rare and mystical meeting.  The old man came from Hunan and I could only half understand him, as his accent often was almost impossible for me to understand.  We chatted for almost an hour.

My wife then remembered she had a tasty power bar she had brought from the U.S. and, like all good moms who want people to be happy and well-fed, gave it to him.  He smiled, talked a bit more and then went inside the Liu Dong Bin shrine.  From the alter he brought out a load of tangerines which he gave us – again something Taoist priests rarely, if ever, do.  He wanted to continue chatting, but I had made previous appointments.

Karmic Connection or Yuen Fen

I returned the next day and could not find the Elder Taoist Monk.  After about half an hour of going all over the place, I found his small room and he invited me inside.

It was an extremely tight space, with a television set, clock, two water bottles, a bed, two chairs and a desk.  There were a few pictures on the wall, including him in his youth with a giant tiger from somewhere in Yunnan province.

Yesterday’s power bar was still unopened.  I gave him a bag of Hawaiian macadamia nuts.  He was still in feeding people mode and kept filling my bag with a load of peanuts.
After some time of talking he brought out his pictures from his desk.  He gave me several of them and said he only did so because I was a teacher.  He then said we had a karmic connection, which the Chinese call “yuen fen.”

After some time, a young Chinese man also came.  He said he was a friend but not a student.  A conversation ensued and the thing was getting the young man a pair of warm shoes for the arriving freezing winter.  After they worked out the details and how much it would cost, I offered the money to pay for the shoes but the old Taoist monk took the money back and said we had yuen fen and refused the money.

He then out of his minimal money gave to the young man, who had to stop him from giving too much. I was glad the young university graduate came, because he could understand the old man’s provincial accent which I couldn’t half the time, just as the old man couldn’t fully understand me.  With a middle man who spoke some English to boot, it all worked out.

It turns out the Elder Taoist monk was from the Quan Zhen (fire) sect.  He made a major point that they were celibates and never married (in this context married implies having sex).  He was ordained a Taoist monk/priest around 1980 in Hunan province and came to the White Cloud temple in 2008.

I asked him about the inner practices of his sect of Taoism.  He bemoaned that the young monks didn’t practice much and often slept rather than practiced.  In general, they were not very spiritually awake.  He said they wanted the fruits of practice without putting in the internal work.  I responded by saying what they said when I was learning in Taiwan, “No practice no good” and he smiled and put his thumb in the air.

Taoist Meditation Practices

After some time he expressed that unless you practice sufficiently and go deep enough into your heart, the light inside the brain won’t awaken.  I then mentioned that one of my practices in the Liu Dong Bin shrine in the 1980s, I experienced for the first time that light, not only in my brain, but the entire inside of my body.  He closed his eyes, contemplated, and when he opened them smiled and gain gave an thumbs up in affirmation.

Later I asked if the minds of practitioners in his sect went outside their bodies to other dimensions and outward towards the stars.  This again elicited another lament about the young monks’ lack of practice.  Slowly, however, he came about and said if you go deep inside your heart sufficiently, this practice can also be accomplished.

After the young man left, we chatted for a while and he asked if I would be returning to Beijing, and six or seven times we went back and forth with me saying I don’t know and him repeating it.  He said it would be nice to also see my family again.  After we did more a bit more talk, I said I had to go and would practice at the Liu Dong Bin shrine before I left.  We then did a traditional Taoist bow reserved for good friends.  Palms over palms, thumb touching the palm of one hand, we bowed down, so our hands went between our legs and then came up, bowed, crossed palms moving toward each other.

I meditated at the Liu Dong Bin shrine for an hour or so.  Since I had meditated often here it was easy to reconnect to the energy of the shrine.

San Xin Deities of Taoism

Next I sought out the San Xin, where I also used to sit and do meditation homework assignments for hours on end.  On the second floor of another temple within the White Cloud Temple complex, the San Xin are what you could call the three big deities of Taoism that are responsible for the turning of the seasons on the earth and, by extension, the universe.

There was no bench or chair as there always was in the 1980s.  I talked to the priest in charge to see if I could sit and meditate there and he asked why.  Then we had a confusing conversation that eventually got cleared up.  I told him I had became a Taoist priest in Taiwan in the 1970s and used to practice in the San Xin temple in the 1980s.  He got confused because the Bai Yun Guan was closed to the public in the 1970s.  He asked me this in English and said he was the only one around who understood English.

Anyway, after explaining I practiced there 1984-6 it made sense as the temple was open then and he said okay.  He left me in peace and I preceded to meditate until leaving.

The White Cloud Temple is an amazing spiritual treasure. If you ever come to Beijing and are interested in Taoism it is one place you don’t want to miss.

Until the next post… Bruce


  1. Peter Farnsworth

    Great story telling about re-visiting the white cloud temple
    really enjoyed it
    regards from Australia

  2. Van Knight

    Thanks for sharing this bit of magic… my heart is moved by reading it…

    Much Love

  3. Rambi Virk

    Sounds amazing – beyond my understanding at the moment

  4. Theo

    Hi Bruce,

    this is such a beuatiful post. Thanks for it. I am sad I am so far away from you and cannot join your classes. I have recently become very intrested in Taoism and think your introductory materail was super !


  5. David

    Thank you for sharing Bruce. Sharing is completing the experience.

  6. Joe O'Neill

    I enjoyed reading about your experiences, especially your interactions with the Elder monk. Look forward to reading more. Thanks Bruce.

  7. christian

    hallo from Greece
    A very nice story

  8. Phil Hollis

    This is inspiring stuff. It reminds me of my own shortcomings with regards to my standing and meditation practice. Thanks Bruce.

  9. Helen

    Inspiring blogg. Thanks Bruce. That reminds me I better go and practise!

  10. Stuart Shaw

    Nice Bruce! It was one of the dissapointments of my trip that I didn’t make it to the White Cloud Temple. Had to balance things out with other things.

    I am interested tho, you said that the Quan Zhen sect was the “fire” sect. I have never heard of this. Could you share more about the connection is with fire and how it reflects on their practices?

    Thanks 😀

  11. Craig

    I would bet that fewer than one in a million are really capable of that sort of practice. Hopefully, such a rare achievement will make our world a better place.

  12. Kamaka O Pono

    Aloha indeed and Mele Kalikimaka Sifu,
    Yuen Fen for sure..reading your words puts me in your moment at the temple and I could feel the stillness in the air and smell the aroma of food cooking. You are indeed blessed to experience this illuminating experience from within and the physical connection is a reflection of Spirit talking story…the Taoist monk has wise words…interesting you mention about traveling beyond the dimensions of matter, energy, space and time, now that my friend is spiritually awakened…
    Wishing you and you family only the very best on this holiday season…
    Talk story soon…Mahalo..
    Tommy Kamakaopono Borges

  13. David Shaver


    Inspiring and informative as always. Your sharing continues to enrich my practice and life.

    Thanks, David

  14. Nico Veenkamp

    Hi Bruce, When I visited the White Cloud temple this summer I was inspired and felt humble by the quiet, almost serene, atmosphere there. I had planned to stay for an hour but ended up being there almost the whole day. Visiting the various shrines and especially spending at least an hour watching and meditating at the shrine of the King of Medicine (with Hua Tao and Sun Simiao). This was very important for me, being a student of TCM, to connect with the old venerated masters.

    When I will visit Beijing again I plan to visit the temple again. This is such an inspiring place.

  15. draco

    Hi Bruce,
    I am a taichi practitioner , live in Australia.
    I wonder if you could help me understand something about the White cloud Monastery.
    I have read Baolin Wu’s books where he mentioned his upbringing in the temple in the 1960’s 70’s under the abbot Du Xin Lin, but when I search for the monastery I come up with the official information that the manastery was closed to the public… I am thinking of going over there and would like to know more about it. Also is there a taichi/kung fu school at the monastery where I can see the traditional forms that they teach?…..I have learnd the 8 immortal sword form from the book and really like it. Are you familiar with it?

  16. Stephen Barnes

    Great encounter and experience. What if I have only 7 immortals on bridge ornament ? Love to go to China but always thought to skip Beijing. .so much to see.


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